Anyone here think that Windows 8 is 'vastly superior' to iOS and Android?

ScotiaBurrell · 09-20-2012, 02:10 PM

Reviewers do not seem to share his optimism.

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Apple today isn't just the biggest technology company; it's one of the biggest publically traded companies anywhere. Apple, not Microsoft, is writing the future of computing, thanks to the staggering success of the iPhone and iPad product lines. This, folks, is what's called a crisis.

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Microsoft, amazingly, is confronting this issue head-on.

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Windows 8 is no less than a major new mobile platform that accomplishes two things. First, it provides the software giant with a platform that's vastly superior, out of the gate, to the two platforms that currently dominate this market: Apple iOS (running on the iPad) and Google Android OS.

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Windows 8 is the start of a revolution. It's exciting and forward leaning. Yes, it's different, but get over it: We made the transition from keyboard and command line to mouse and GUI. We can make this transition, too.

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/...ndows-8-144141

elcreative · 09-20-2012, 02:17 PM

It's still Windows... I use it when I have to but otherwise...

holymadness · 09-20-2012, 02:22 PM

Since hardly anyone has used Windows 8, it's sort of a moot question. AFAIK the phone version isn't even ready, which is why the new Lumias don't have ship dates.

However, videos like this don't inspire much confidence. The split metro/x86 environment on tablets looks like a usability nightmare. I've also heard lots of complaints about the metro environment on desktops, particularly in regards to Outlook.

jgaiser · 09-20-2012, 02:32 PM

*Any* article praising Microsoft from a site calling itself "Super Site for Windows" should be taken with a large grain of salt.

And Microsoft's only hope is that it is *as least as good* as iOS and Android or their attempts to enter the phone software field will end up as the previous attempts. No where.

ScotiaBurrell · 09-20-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by holymadness

Since hardly anyone has used Windows 8

Plenty have.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing...8-start-screen

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...perience-aint/

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...wkward-hybrid/

ScotiaBurrell · 09-20-2012, 02:40 PM

He the author is talking about PC product, not phone:

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Although Microsoft positions Windows RT as simply the ARM-based variant of Windows 8, the situation is in fact reversed: Windows RT is Microsoft's new mobile platform. And Windows 8 is the PC-based variant of that system, providing all the new stuff from RT along with backward compatibility so that the existing customer base can make the transition more easily. Put another way, Windows RT is a fresh start. Windows 8 simply bridges the old and the new.

And make no mistake, this transition is happening. If Microsoft is successful with this plan, we'll leave behind the traditional PC in the years ahead.

wizwor · 09-20-2012, 02:41 PM

I do. I am using it right now to do things that cannot be done on any other platform except via an emulator. I chose to use these tools that cannot be run from another platform because there are no comparable tools.

jgaiser · 09-20-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

He the author is talking about PC product, not phone:

Huh? In your own quote of the article you have this:

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Windows 8 is no less than a major new mobile platform that accomplishes two things. First, it provides the software giant with a platform that's vastly superior, out of the gate, to the two platforms that currently dominate this market: Apple iOS (running on the iPad) and Google Android OS.

That sure looks to me like he's at last partially talking about phone. Haven't read the complete article. I'm not interested in fan-boys, of any persuasion.

Serpentine · 09-20-2012, 03:03 PM

Another bad article posted by ScotiaBurrell, what a shocker.

Apple vs. Everyone Else; The horse corpse has had a good flogging. If you somehow care about this, perhaps seeking professional help to fix your fevered need to live through a companies actions might be a good way to spend time.

David Munch · 09-20-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jgaiser

That sure looks to me like he's at last partially talking about phone. Haven't read the complete article. I'm not interested in fan-boys, of any persuasion.

iOS and Android on tablets.

murraypaul · 09-20-2012, 03:12 PM

I think the full Window 8 tablets will be 'vastly superior' for most corporate uses, where existing applications can easily be ported across and made compatible between tablets and normal clients.
I think the Windows RT tablets are starting at a considerable disadvantage to iOS and Android tablets, in that they have no initial software library.

jgaiser · 09-20-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by David Munch

iOS and Android on tablets.

Yes I did see that. But how is iOS and Android on tablets any different, really, than on a phone? Doesn't matter anyway, because Microsoft *is* aiming Windows 8 at the phone market and they already pretty much own the PC market.

ebusinesstutor · 09-20-2012, 03:31 PM

My son had Windows 8 installed on one of his computers and I looked at it briefly. There were aspects of it I liked, but I didn't spend enough time for a full review.

I am not a Microsoft fan and I have complained about many of their past mistakes like Vista.

But I have to give them credit for taking a bold step in Windows 8 of bringing together their mobile and desktop systems. They needed to do something major as they are so far behind iO/S and Android.

It could fail massively but I give them credit for a much bolder step then they have done in the past.

ScotiaBurrell · 09-20-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Serpentine

seeking professional help to fix your fevered need

Lighten up please. all for fun.

pl001 · 09-20-2012, 04:41 PM

I don't know why people keep saying they are so far behind IOS and Android. In sales, sure. But Windows phone 7.5 is already a pretty dang good OS. Much more modern than IOS and more polished than Android. Their only significant disadvantages, in my opinion anyway, have been available hardware and ecosystem. But their ecosystem has been growing rapidly and there are several new phones coming out with Windows 8. I don't know if a single iPhone 5 review was published without hoards of comments comparing it to the Lumia 920. Which tells me a lot of people are excited about Windows 8 in the mobile world.

I don't really care for Windows 8 on the desktop, but I have come to the realization that I rarely use my desktop for personal use anymore. So long as Microsoft doesn't make any major gaffes, my next phone and tablet will likely be Windows. Heck, I'd have a Windows phone now if not for the two disadvantages I brought up back when I bought my last phone almost a year ago. The only model available on my carrier was small and clunky with a physical keyboard, and my software required for work wasn't available at the time. Neither will be an issue for me in a couple months.

09-20-2012, 04:41 PM	#15
pl001 Evangelist Posts: 459 Karma: 4818038 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Nook, Nook Color, EVO3D, Surface RT, Galaxy S5, Surface 3	I don't know why people keep saying they are so far behind IOS and Android. In sales, sure. But Windows phone 7.5 is already a pretty dang good OS. Much more modern than IOS and more polished than Android. Their only significant disadvantages, in my opinion anyway, have been available hardware and ecosystem. But their ecosystem has been growing rapidly and there are several new phones coming out with Windows 8. I don't know if a single iPhone 5 review was published without hoards of comments comparing it to the Lumia 920. Which tells me a lot of people are excited about Windows 8 in the mobile world. I don't really care for Windows 8 on the desktop, but I have come to the realization that I rarely use my desktop for personal use anymore. So long as Microsoft doesn't make any major gaffes, my next phone and tablet will likely be Windows. Heck, I'd have a Windows phone now if not for the two disadvantages I brought up back when I bought my last phone almost a year ago. The only model available on my carrier was small and clunky with a physical keyboard, and my software required for work wasn't available at the time. Neither will be an issue for me in a couple months. Last edited by pl001; 09-20-2012 at 04:45 PM.

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elcreative Wizard Posts: 2,888 Karma: 5875940 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: PRS505, 600, 350, 650, Nexus 7, Note III, iPad 4 etc	It's still Windows... I use it when I have to but otherwise...

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holymadness Guru Posts: 722 Karma: 2084955 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: iPhone	Since hardly anyone has used Windows 8, it's sort of a moot question. AFAIK the phone version isn't even ready, which is why the new Lumias don't have ship dates. However, videos like this don't inspire much confidence. The split metro/x86 environment on tablets looks like a usability nightmare. I've also heard lots of complaints about the metro environment on desktops, particularly in regards to Outlook.

09-20-2012, 02:32 PM	#4
jgaiser Omnivorous Posts: 3,283 Karma: 27978909 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rural NW Oregon Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Fire HD, Kindle 3, KPW1	Any article praising Microsoft from a site calling itself "Super Site for Windows" should be taken with a large grain of salt. And Microsoft's only hope is that it is as least as good as iOS and Android or their attempts to enter the phone software field will end up as the previous attempts. No where.

09-20-2012, 02:41 PM	#7
wizwor Wizard Posts: 1,068 Karma: 23867385 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kindle, fire	I do. I am using it right now to do things that cannot be done on any other platform except via an emulator. I chose to use these tools that cannot be run from another platform because there are no comparable tools.

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Serpentine Evangelist Posts: 416 Karma: 1045911 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Device: Kindle 3	Another bad article posted by ScotiaBurrell, what a shocker. Apple vs. Everyone Else; The horse corpse has had a good flogging. If you somehow care about this, perhaps seeking professional help to fix your fevered need to live through a companies actions might be a good way to spend time.

09-20-2012, 03:12 PM	#11
murraypaul Interested Bystander Posts: 3,726 Karma: 19728152 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Note 4, Kobo One	I think the full Window 8 tablets will be 'vastly superior' for most corporate uses, where existing applications can easily be ported across and made compatible between tablets and normal clients. I think the Windows RT tablets are starting at a considerable disadvantage to iOS and Android tablets, in that they have no initial software library.

09-20-2012, 03:31 PM	#13
ebusinesstutor Star Gawker Posts: 526 Karma: 6944314 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Spruce Grove, AB Canada Device: Kindle Paperwhite	My son had Windows 8 installed on one of his computers and I looked at it briefly. There were aspects of it I liked, but I didn't spend enough time for a full review. I am not a Microsoft fan and I have complained about many of their past mistakes like Vista. But I have to give them credit for taking a bold step in Windows 8 of bringing together their mobile and desktop systems. They needed to do something major as they are so far behind iO/S and Android. It could fail massively but I give them credit for a much bolder step then they have done in the past.