So who is buying one of the new kindle models? - Page 2

Tabatha · 09-09-2012, 09:24 AM

Less storage, no audio or TTS, and price increase by $20?. Also with light totally off, screen is still the same grey background as all other Kindle's, just better resolution.

Very happy with my KTouch in a lighted cover, so will wait to see what is in store for next version.

And of course LOVE my Galaxy Player 5.0 for taking on outings. Best size for purse.

apastuszak · 09-09-2012, 01:43 PM

My wife has a nook. But she's taken a liking to audiobooks. Whispersync for Voice would be right up her alley. I may get her a PaperWhite to use with Audible on her phone.

HarryT · 09-10-2012, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tabatha

Less storage, no audio or TTS, and price increase by $20?. Also with light totally off, screen is still the same grey background as all other Kindle's, just better resolution.

No, the screen has 25% better contrast (that figure's from eInk themselves). Plus you also get a range of fonts, etc.

yacoob · 09-10-2012, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

No, the screen has 25% better contrast

Where's that from? Any photos showing that difference without backlighting on? There was one on this forum, that wasn't really convincing...

HarryT · 09-10-2012, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by yacoob

Where's that from? Any photos showing that difference without backlighting on? There was one on this forum, that wasn't really convincing...

It's from both eInk and Amazon:

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Kindle Paperwhite's screen has 25% higher contrast. ...

s4nder · 09-10-2012, 07:04 AM

There's absolutely no difference in contrast between older Kindles and PW. They throw around big numbers like that because the lit screen seems to have whiter whites, in reality the only advantage is the higher resolution.

They even went as far as saying they expect people to always have the light on, even in brightly lit rooms, which is ludicrous. The light is basically there to hide the grayness.

HansTWN · 09-10-2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by s4nder

There's absolutely no difference in contrast between older Kindles and PW. They throw around big numbers like that because the lit screen seems to have whiter whites, in reality the only advantage is the higher resolution.

They even went as far as saying they expect people to always have the light on, even in brightly lit rooms, which is ludicrous. The light is basically there to hide the grayness.

I guess you are right. But, if you look at the individual letters in the pictures, the higher resolution really does make a difference.

s4nder · 09-10-2012, 07:49 AM

Sharpness is indeed much better but that alone probably isn't worth 139 $ to me. A reviewer on youtube who had them both in his hands also turned the light off and said "contrast looks about the same," so it's not just the camera not capturing the difference.

For comparison, the improvement in contrast going from K2 to K3 was 50%

The current improvement doesn't look to be anywhere near half that.

booklover6 · 09-10-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by s4nder

There's absolutely no difference in contrast between older Kindles and PW.

It sure looks different, to me. The PW looks MUCH sharper. Definitely worth buying, to me.

s4nder · 09-10-2012, 09:32 AM

Sharpness and contrast are two different things but whatever, I've gone on long enough on the subject.

HarryT · 09-10-2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by s4nder

Sharpness and contrast are two different things but whatever, I've gone on long enough on the subject.

Contrast improvements are a quantitative figure measured with a photometer. In the photograph you kindly posted (thanks for doing so), the black on the PW looks "blacker" to me than on the other device, but that's very hard to judge by eye. That's why contrast improvements are measured quantitatively and not qualitatively.

Scarpad · 09-10-2012, 11:35 AM

so how much is the new storage space vs the old, Why was it reduced, if anything storage gets cheaer why don't these things have at least 4gb of space? Thats why I bought the Recently released Sony PRS-T2 I could stick a 32gb card in it, overkill yes but I had one sitting around.

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09-10-2012, 07:04 AM	#21
s4nder Connoisseur Posts: 75 Karma: 546874 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Aura One	There's absolutely no difference in contrast between older Kindles and PW. They throw around big numbers like that because the lit screen seems to have whiter whites, in reality the only advantage is the higher resolution. They even went as far as saying they expect people to always have the light on, even in brightly lit rooms, which is ludicrous. The light is basically there to hide the grayness. Last edited by s4nder; 09-10-2012 at 07:08 AM.

09-10-2012, 07:49 AM	#23
s4nder Connoisseur Posts: 75 Karma: 546874 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Aura One	Sharpness is indeed much better but that alone probably isn't worth 139 $ to me. A reviewer on youtube who had them both in his hands also turned the light off and said "contrast looks about the same," so it's not just the camera not capturing the difference. For comparison, the improvement in contrast going from K2 to K3 was 50% The current improvement doesn't look to be anywhere near half that. Last edited by s4nder; 09-10-2012 at 11:34 AM.

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09-09-2012, 09:24 AM	#16
Tabatha Groupie Posts: 153 Karma: 1314940 Join Date: May 2011 Location: MA Device: KTouch-PW-WIFI Galaxy Tablet 7 Plus 32gb Galaxy Player 5.0-4.2	Less storage, no audio or TTS, and price increase by $20?. Also with light totally off, screen is still the same grey background as all other Kindle's, just better resolution. Very happy with my KTouch in a lighted cover, so will wait to see what is in store for next version. And of course LOVE my Galaxy Player 5.0 for taking on outings. Best size for purse.

09-09-2012, 01:43 PM	#17
apastuszak Fanatic Posts: 509 Karma: 125599 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bensalem, PA Device: Kindle Scribe, Nook Glowlight 4, Apple iPad Pro 12.9"	My wife has a nook. But she's taken a liking to audiobooks. Whispersync for Voice would be right up her alley. I may get her a PaperWhite to use with Audible on her phone.

09-10-2012, 09:32 AM	#25
s4nder Connoisseur Posts: 75 Karma: 546874 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Aura One	Sharpness and contrast are two different things but whatever, I've gone on long enough on the subject.

09-10-2012, 11:35 AM	#27
Scarpad Addict Posts: 310 Karma: 1013114 Join Date: Sep 2006	so how much is the new storage space vs the old, Why was it reduced, if anything storage gets cheaer why don't these things have at least 4gb of space? Thats why I bought the Recently released Sony PRS-T2 I could stick a 32gb card in it, overkill yes but I had one sitting around.