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 A lot of people did buy these and not much use them, so used devices in good or better condition should remain available. And some problems are repairable. Last November a nearby supermarket was selling the Kindle Keyboard 3G for $85. If I see this again, I'll be tempted to buy a spare. Personally, I'm not buying the inevitability of progress. For word processing (using Appleworks Classic), my wife and I agree that the Apple II is better than a new PC for our needs. Our Apple II's nonetheless remain in the basement, mainly because they don't do the internet (or calibre  ). But an eReader that just does eReading is still worthwhile for me to keep upstairs. There's no reason to not use a device just because it's a museum piece.
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			Touch screen readers is going to eventually be the norm and it's going to be hard to find a non-touch reader with the software features you want.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 And really, the only 'software feature' I am interested in, as tubemonkey wrote above, is the function of reading the books that go on it. Everything else I can just take or leave. I hope that Amazon notices the people who actually like the non-touch screens and keeps that model alive. They can put all the bells and whistles they like on their other models. Some people just want and NEED the basics. And yes, there are people with physical disabilities who would end up just throwing a touchscreen model across the room. A few of my senior friends who have shaky hands would phone me up angrily asking me what was going through my head when I recommended or bought "this blasted thing" for them. I do believe they'd be happier with the non-touch Kindle. Add book, select book, read. Shouldn't be harder than that.  | 
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			I'm not so sure non-touch screen readers will disappear altogether. Amazon may well continue to offer a basic e-reader like the Kindle NT at the bottom of their price range - why wouldn't they if there is still a market for it?
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			It's my favorite ereader to date. It's like a refillable electronic paperback.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			It really is nice and tiny. I have no complaints other than the old contrast issue I have with mine. It would be nice to be able to turn WiFi off from the menu but it's a great little reader. I will say my Marware cover is looking rather ratty on the inside because I use it so much. If they added a light it would be perfect!
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I don't care about the keyboard, I only use it to search for books, so a virtual keyboard is fine.  However, I do not like the touch.  My wife has one & I tried it for a week.  I turned too many pages accidentally.  I would buy a paperwhite non-touch today.  Paperwhite touch - not so interested.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I far prefer the non-touch to the touch.  Non-touch is much more comfortable for one handed use.  I also see no need for touch on my kindle.  I use the kindle to read books and that's it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			![]() Sorry it was $69 Kindle. I thought it was the Paperwhite... Last edited by Masa.F; 09-07-2012 at 05:13 AM.  | 
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