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Old 09-06-2012, 02:16 PM   #256
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what is practical difference?
It implies a touch layer in front of the screen, which when Sony used it meant a poorer quality display.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:21 PM   #257
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It implies a touch layer in front of the screen, which when Sony used it meant a poorer quality display.
Sony was using pressure sensitive touch, not capacitance.
Capacitance is what tablets use. More responsive than pressure, less likely to get spurious response like infrared. It's a plus.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:23 PM   #258
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Sony was using pressure sensitive touch, not capacitance.
Capacitance is what tablets use. More responsive than pressure, less likely to get spurious response like infrared. It's a plus.
The point was that infrared does not require adding anything to/in front of the screen, the other options do.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:23 PM   #259
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It implies a touch layer in front of the screen, which when Sony used it meant a poorer quality display.
Yep!


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Old 09-06-2012, 02:25 PM   #260
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Quoting from live.arstechnica.com/amazon-kindle-fire-liveblog/ :

The paperwhite ($119, $179) models are the new ones. The $69 is the same as the old one, used to be priced at $79.
Not identical - the same with "new fonts, crisper text, 15% faster page turns."
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The point was that infrared does not require adding anything to/in front of the screen, the other options do.
Presumably there is already a layer in front of the screen for the "lightguide." So if Amazon could build the touch into that same layer... could be good?

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Presumably there is already a layer in front of the screen for the "lightguide." So if Amazon could build the touch into that same layer... could be good?
Yup, that would be a very clever solution.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:43 PM   #265
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Tablets use capacitive and are not blurry. Sony's screen was resistive, which is different.
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Old 09-06-2012, 03:28 PM   #266
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So is this thing eInk or not?
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So ... are they going to post it on amazon.com or not?

Another thing, can you actually read on it without the light on?
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Old 09-06-2012, 03:38 PM   #268
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Note this is designed to be used with the light on all of the time. That is why it looks 'whiter'. Perhaps with the light off, it looks no better than Pearl screen (except for better resolution).

Anyway, the lighting technology seems different than what Nook GlowLite and Kobo are using, which is probably a good thing (nano laser etc.). Capacitative touch should be more responsive, and eliminate the deep 'well' caused by the thick bezel (needed to provide space for IR beams). I'm really looking forward to getting one, never mind my KT is only 3 months old, and the fact that it will probably require a new cover...

Audiobook Whispersync. Wonder if Kindle can participate in that and if it works with iOS/Android apps.

Note the K4 has a faster CPU and more builtin fonts.

The Fire line looks strong too, but I am getting a free iPad3 so my tablet cup is full. I guess you could argue that that is $500 saved I could spend on a Fire, but I need to think about it for awhile.

Wonder if they'll be updating the original Fire software.
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I'm really looking forward to getting one, never mind my KT is only 3 months old, and the fact that it will probably require a new cover...
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so what do you think the going rate for used KT's will be now? I'll probably sell my 4 month old KT with official cover to get the paperwhite.
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Note this is designed to be used with the light on all of the time. That is why it looks 'whiter'. Perhaps with the light off, it looks no better than Pearl screen (except for better resolution).
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here's a photo comparison of the paperwhite with the light off next to a K4. I'd say that the paperwhite background looks only slightly more white than the K4 (if at all). but it's hard to tell for sure just by this one photo:
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and here's with the light at max next to a K4:
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