Amazon Patent Application fo rDual Eink/LCD Device and Hands on with prototype devic

Dulin's Books · 08-31-2012, 12:03 PM

This only proves further how broken the Patent System is in the Us. Granted its only an application and SHOULD get denied I have no faith that it will be since they actually filed the application

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/30/a...e-e-ink-and-l/

The hands on is from the IFA show and apparently Eink themselves were showing this device and talking about the power savings from offloading static content to the Eink side

http://www.stuff.tv/news/ifa/rumour-...plays-incoming

I hope this means that that silly Patent Ap will be denied but the new "first to file" switch may allow it through.

But seriously how to they (Amazon) expect that to pass? there have been tons of device with back to back displays in the past- i have a cell phone in my pocket right now that has two displays back to back.

There have been devices which offload content from one lcd to the other either both lcd or one lcd and one eink not the least of which was the Entourage Edge.

Ill probably be ranting about this for the rest of the day but ill try to keep away from the keyboard for as much as I can

din155 · 08-31-2012, 12:13 PM

And this is called invention ?
For a moment I thought it was the same screen

but then I read the word patent.

tubemonkey · 08-31-2012, 12:21 PM

The eink side is upside down

No raised bezels, so how do they prevent the screens from getting scratched?

tubemonkey · 08-31-2012, 12:24 PM

A phone-sized eink reader; how cool is that?

I want a Galaxy Note sized eink reader that fits in my shirt pocket. Great for reading on the go.

ucfgrad93 · 08-31-2012, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

A phone-sized eink reader; how cool is that?

I don't think it is cool at all. It is too small in my opinion. I wouldn't want a screen smaller than my Kindle 6 inch screen. I would never buy a device that has back-to-back screens.

din155 · 08-31-2012, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

The eink side is upside down

No raised bezels, so how do they prevent the screens from getting scratched?

thats the problem. Two screens back to back and it needs patent protection?

Fluribus · 08-31-2012, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dulin's Books

But seriously how to they (Amazon) expect that to pass? there have been tons of device with back to back displays in the past- i have a cell phone in my pocket right now that has two displays back to back.

They are hoping the patent office will see the "A" in Amazon and mistake it for Apple.

I have formed a company called Ample and have recently applied for a patent on filing patents.

din155 · 08-31-2012, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluribus

They are hoping the patent office will see the "A" in Amazon and mistake it for Apple.

I have formed a company called Ample and have recently applied for a patent on filing patents.

tubemonkey · 08-31-2012, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ucfgrad93

I don't think it is cool at all. It is too small in my opinion. I wouldn't want a screen smaller than my Kindle 6 inch screen. I would never buy a device that has back-to-back screens.

I don't want one that size either. I just think it's neat that they've considered smaller sizes. What I really want is one the same size as a Galaxy Note. I'd ditch my K4 for one.

tubemonkey · 08-31-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluribus

I have formed a company called Ample and have recently applied for a patent on filing patents.

There are lots of companies named Ample. One of them might sue you.

RainingLemur · 08-31-2012, 12:47 PM

Without a raised bezel of some kind, I would be hesitant to get something like this. But, I do like the idea a great deal. It's kinda like the enTourage Edge in a single slab.

Namekuseijin · 08-31-2012, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

A phone-sized eink reader; how cool is that?

I want a Galaxy Note sized eink reader that fits in my shirt pocket. Great for reading on the go.

count me in

fjtorres · 08-31-2012, 02:36 PM

I wouldn't be so sure that the patent won't/shouldn't be awarded.
Patents are awarded for very specific methods and aplications; often two different ways of doing the same or similar thing can be rightfully patented.
People tend to focus a lot of *what* a patent is about and very little on *how* the patented process or device works.
One patent for a double-screened device might feed each screen off a separate buffer and controller while another might run both off the same controller with a single partitioned buffer.
Who knows? Maybe they found a clever use for a two-sided soapbar phone.
Looking at the prototype, it looks like the eink screen might be a viable, scrollable clipboard fed ith clippings from the LCD side.
That might justify both the patent and the device right there.

Dulin's Books · 08-31-2012, 02:44 PM

i read the claims etc. there is nothing new in the how from any of a myriad of dual screen devices besides them being back to back.

Fluribus · 08-31-2012, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

There are lots of companies named Ample. One of them might sue you.

I have also filed for a patent on filing lawsuits. I will, of course, refuse to license anyone to sue me.

08-31-2012, 12:03 PM	#1
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	Amazon Patent Application fo rDual Eink/LCD Device and Hands on with prototype devic This only proves further how broken the Patent System is in the Us. Granted its only an application and SHOULD get denied I have no faith that it will be since they actually filed the application http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/30/a...e-e-ink-and-l/ The hands on is from the IFA show and apparently Eink themselves were showing this device and talking about the power savings from offloading static content to the Eink side http://www.stuff.tv/news/ifa/rumour-...plays-incoming I hope this means that that silly Patent Ap will be denied but the new "first to file" switch may allow it through. But seriously how to they (Amazon) expect that to pass? there have been tons of device with back to back displays in the past- i have a cell phone in my pocket right now that has two displays back to back. There have been devices which offload content from one lcd to the other either both lcd or one lcd and one eink not the least of which was the Entourage Edge. Ill probably be ranting about this for the rest of the day but ill try to keep away from the keyboard for as much as I can

08-31-2012, 12:13 PM	#2
din155 Guru Posts: 880 Karma: 7556602 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: UK Device: Kindle PW, Win 10 thinkpad 8in	And this is called invention ? For a moment I thought it was the same screen but then I read the word patent. Last edited by din155; 08-31-2012 at 12:15 PM.

08-31-2012, 02:36 PM	#13
fjtorres Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000	I wouldn't be so sure that the patent won't/shouldn't be awarded. Patents are awarded for very specific methods and aplications; often two different ways of doing the same or similar thing can be rightfully patented. People tend to focus a lot of what a patent is about and very little on how the patented process or device works. One patent for a double-screened device might feed each screen off a separate buffer and controller while another might run both off the same controller with a single partitioned buffer. Who knows? Maybe they found a clever use for a two-sided soapbar phone. Looking at the prototype, it looks like the eink screen might be a viable, scrollable clipboard fed ith clippings from the LCD side. That might justify both the patent and the device right there. Last edited by fjtorres; 08-31-2012 at 02:42 PM.

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tubemonkey monkey on the fringe Posts: 45,858 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show	The eink side is upside down No raised bezels, so how do they prevent the screens from getting scratched?

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tubemonkey monkey on the fringe Posts: 45,858 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show	A phone-sized eink reader; how cool is that? I want a Galaxy Note sized eink reader that fits in my shirt pocket. Great for reading on the go.

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RainingLemur Spork Connoisseur Posts: 2,355 Karma: 16780603 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Nook Color	Without a raised bezel of some kind, I would be hesitant to get something like this. But, I do like the idea a great deal. It's kinda like the enTourage Edge in a single slab.

08-31-2012, 02:44 PM	#14
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	i read the claims etc. there is nothing new in the how from any of a myriad of dual screen devices besides them being back to back.