Touch Kobo Touch Firmware 2.0 - Page 59

Anak · 08-20-2012, 02:48 PM

A side loaded ebook disappears from the library of my KT. The book is still in de Digital Editions folder of the KT but doesn't show in the library.
Connecting the KT to a computer (USB cable) and disconnecting without changing anything makes the book reappear in the library but when the KT is switched off and then turned on again the book has disappeared ones again.

KT: 2.0.0. (r411166) / Desktop: 3.0.1
Book: no DRM

Solution: upgraded the KT firmware to 2.0.2. Books don't disappear anymore but I still don't know what caused the problem in the first place.

JCSullivan · 08-22-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JD Gumby

Ah, so it's continuing to spy on our reading habits. I'll pass. Nothing else in the update is worth putting up with that sort of crap.

EDIT: And I see that the desktop software defaults to the store tab rather than your library every single time you open it. If they're trying to make sure I never buy another book or reader from Kobo ever again, they're doing a good job...

I agree - well said.
Didn't Google just get fined by the EU for doing something similar.

davidfor · 08-22-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anak

A side loaded ebook disappears from the library of my KT. The book is still in de Digital Editions folder of the KT but doesn't show in the library.
Connecting the KT to a computer (USB cable) and disconnecting without changing anything makes the book reappear in the library but when the KT is switched off and then turned on again the book has disappeared ones again.

KT: 2.0.0. (r411166) / Desktop: 3.0.1
Book: no DRM

Solution: upgraded the KT firmware to 2.0.2. Books don't disappear anymore but I still don't know what caused the problem in the first place.

With the 1.9.x firmware the Touch would process new books it found on the device when you disconnected the USB. After this, it seemed to leave them alone until you try to read them.

With 2.0.x firmware, the Touch seems to look at books each time you disconnect. And it sometimes deletes them. It seems to delete the books if there is a change it doesn't like. With 2.0.0, this seemed to be every time the book was updated. Simply copying the book over again would cause it to disappear. With 2.0.2, it doesn't seem to happen as much. I am still losing some books after resending them from calibre. The only change I am sure that cause the delete is if the title metadata gets changed.

KTREADER · 08-22-2012, 10:42 PM

The firmware 2.0 seemed to update fine for me and only noticed two functions that didn't work.
One was the annotations and percent of book read which was in the thousands of percent.
The other was the Shelf for categories which seemed to have failed the update.

A suggestion by some users to "LOGOUT OF KOBO DESKTOP SOFTWARE"
worked for me and was able to use the SHELF function as it was intended.

I haven't tested the percent read in annotations yet but will try to report back.

Thanks for the help and efforts

beautifulsoup · 08-22-2012, 11:04 PM

I'm still chicken to update from 1.9.17

davidfor · 08-22-2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KTREADER

The firmware 2.0 seemed to update fine for me and only noticed two functions that didn't work.
One was the annotations and percent of book read which was in the thousands of percent.

The percent read in annotations has always been a bit weird. I saw all sorts of numbers in with 1.9.17 as well as 2.0.0.

GvilleBridge · 08-23-2012, 02:44 AM

JCSullivan concluded:

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My signature starts here: Returned the KOBO and got a Sony Reader. Traded the Sony Reader for an Acer Aspire One. Between the netbook and an Android tablet I am quite happy.

Yes, we need not have only one gadget. I got a good deal on a refurbished Nook Tablet at Overstock, not as a replacement for my KT as an eInk reader but as a supplement for reading. The tab has many virtues--it's fast and responsive and it has some multitasking--but like other LCD devices it is hard on the eyes, even with text on a sepia background and brightness dimmed. It will be good for dipping into various ebooks, like the massive collected classics from Delphi (all Dickens is 116MB, total Jules Verne 112MB), and a color atlas will be a must. One fabulous feature is when you press and hold on a word, a popup menu gives you the choice of the Merriam-Webster dictionary, Wikipedia, or a Google search.

But I am wedded to eInk for straight reading. While waiting for new, improved firmware, I am handling the KT carefully and not trying to put too many books on it.

MacEachaidh · 08-23-2012, 01:46 PM

My KT's on the "official" release of FW 2.0, and lately I've been creating some shelves and have discovered what I think are undesirable behaviours by the firmware. I'm mentioning them here to see if others have seen them as well, but also because I suspect they're bugs.

1) When I finish a book that's been added to a shelf, the book is marked complete, and left in my Lbrary, but it's automatically removed from the Shelf. Note I haven't deleted the book; as I said it's still in my main Library; it just no longer appears on the Shelf it was previously assigned to.

2) If I'm reading a book that's included on a Shelf I've created, when my KT goes into sleep mode it doesn't use the book's cover as a screen display; instead it generates a text screen with the book's display name from the file's metadata in a large (24pt or so), italicised serif font as a title. I know it's the KT doing that, because that screen doesn't exist anywhere in the actual e.book, and it's always the same font and formatting, regardless of the book itself, for every Shelved book on my KT.

(If I'm reading a book that hasn't been assigned to a Shelf and let the KT go into sleep mode, the sleep display is still the book's cover ... well, allowing for the bug of the firmware using the previous book's cover the first time it goes into sleep mode.)

I haven't found any user options to turn these behaviours on or off. Removing a completed book from a Shelf seems like a bug; the display of a device-generated title seems harmless enough, but it is unexpected. What's wrong with the book's cover for the sleep display, as we used to have? Or is this simply a bug, and the text display of the book's metatitle was intended for another purpose?

Have other people seen these?

dioioib · 08-24-2012, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

2) If I'm reading a book that's included on a Shelf I've created, when my KT goes into sleep mode it doesn't use the book's cover as a screen display; instead it generates a text screen with the book's display name from the file's metadata in a large (24pt or so), italicised serif font as a title. I know it's the KT doing that, because that screen doesn't exist anywhere in the actual e.book, and it's always the same font and formatting, regardless of the book itself, for every Shelved book on my KT.

I have this issue as-well. On my device the problem is intermittent. Sometimes it will use a different cover from another book.

Peakcrew · 08-24-2012, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

1) When I finish a book that's been added to a shelf, the book is marked complete, and left in my Lbrary, but it's automatically removed from the Shelf. Note I haven't deleted the book; as I said it's still in my main Library; it just no longer appears on the Shelf it was previously assigned to.

I've just had a week reading from one shelf (the stories in Heinlein's "Future History" series), and previously from an H.G. Wells shelf. I haven't noticed this behaviour at all, but I'd be mightily hacked off if I did!

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Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

2) If I'm reading a book that's included on a Shelf I've created, when my KT goes into sleep mode it doesn't use the book's cover as a screen display; instead it generates a text screen with the book's display name from the file's metadata in a large (24pt or so), italicised serif font as a title. I know it's the KT doing that, because that screen doesn't exist anywhere in the actual e.book, and it's always the same font and formatting, regardless of the book itself, for every Shelved book on my KT.

(If I'm reading a book that hasn't been assigned to a Shelf and let the KT go into sleep mode, the sleep display is still the book's cover ... well, allowing for the bug of the firmware using the previous book's cover the first time it goes into sleep mode.)

I have noticed something similar, but it seems to me that it occurs on books that I have edited and taken out the titlepage.xhtml file for whatever reason. The book will still show a cover when off, but in sleep it shows a title and that it is an epub (which I prefer, now I come to think of it). I also have a couple of books from when I was initially playing with editing that display different covers depending on what mode the reader is in! The reader is simply accessing a different file for "sleep" and "off".

MacEachaidh · 08-24-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Peakcrew

I've just had a week reading from one shelf (the stories in Heinlein's "Future History" series), and previously from an H.G. Wells shelf. I haven't noticed this behaviour at all, but I'd be mightily hacked off if I did!

Really, this didn't happen for you? It only happens for me when a book is complete, and I actually page right to the last page in the file. Then the KT does its automatic flip back to the home page, removes the book I've just completed from the carousel display, and also removes the book from the relevant shelf. I'd be cross if it deleted the book from the KT completely, but at least it's still in the Library, so i presume if I want to add it back to the shelf I can. (Actually, I haven't tested that bit. I wonder if shelves don't allow "completed" books to be added? I must experiment.)

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I have noticed something similar, but it seems to me that it occurs on books that I have edited and taken out the titlepage.xhtml file for whatever reason. The book will still show a cover when off, but in sleep it shows a title and that it is an epub (which I prefer, now I come to think of it). I also have a couple of books from when I was initially playing with editing that display different covers depending on what mode the reader is in! The reader is simply accessing a different file for "sleep" and "off".

For me, it's definitely ignoring the cover that exists in the file.

If I go from the book back to the Home page, the carousel display at first shows this text faux-cover for the book, and then after a second or two that updates to show the actual cover of the book, so I know the graphic is still there. If I then go back into the book, and manually put the KT to sleep, then the sleep screen display is the correct cover of the book ... but just the first time. The next time the KT goes to sleep with that book open, it's back to the device-generated book title display.

davidfor · 08-24-2012, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

1) When I finish a book that's been added to a shelf, the book is marked complete, and left in my Lbrary, but it's automatically removed from the Shelf. Note I haven't deleted the book; as I said it's still in my main Library; it just no longer appears on the Shelf it was previously assigned to.

I'm not seeing this. I have played with the bookshelves a lot lately, including reading a set of short stories that was on one, and haven't seen this,

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2) If I'm reading a book that's included on a Shelf I've created, when my KT goes into sleep mode it doesn't use the book's cover as a screen display; instead it generates a text screen with the book's display name from the file's metadata in a large (24pt or so), italicised serif font as a title. I know it's the KT doing that, because that screen doesn't exist anywhere in the actual e.book, and it's always the same font and formatting, regardless of the book itself, for every Shelved book on my KT.

(If I'm reading a book that hasn't been assigned to a Shelf and let the KT go into sleep mode, the sleep display is still the book's cover ... well, allowing for the bug of the firmware using the previous book's cover the first time it goes into sleep mode.)

I have seen this cover a couple of times but hadn't noticed the pattern. I just did some experimenting, and I think this is what is happening:

- If I start reading a book a new book from a shelf, the text cover is used.
- If I start reading a book from the general library, or the carousel, a real cover is used. But, it is from the previous book.
- If I open a book from a shelf that has previously been opened and had a cover generated for the sleep screen, the cover will be used.

That is the result of some very quick tests, so I might have missed something. In any case, it looks like a bug rather than something deliberate. Maybe when they fix the use last cover bug, this will get fixed to.

davidfor · 08-24-2012, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Peakcrew

I have noticed something similar, but it seems to me that it occurs on books that I have edited and taken out the titlepage.xhtml file for whatever reason. The book will still show a cover when off, but in sleep it shows a title and that it is an epub (which I prefer, now I come to think of it). I also have a couple of books from when I was initially playing with editing that display different covers depending on what mode the reader is in! The reader is simply accessing a different file for "sleep" and "off".

Just a comment on this...

The Touch does not actually use the cover image from the ePub. It is actually using the first page from the ePub. For most books, this is just some html that displays the image. But, I have some downloaded stories that have a text based cover page the first page. And others that use a mix of text with an image. For these, this page is what the Touch.

Peakcrew · 08-24-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

Really, this didn't happen for you? It only happens for me when a book is complete, and I actually page right to the last page in the file. Then the KT does its automatic flip back to the home page, removes the book I've just completed from the carousel display, and also removes the book from the relevant shelf.

No, 25 books were put on the Heinlein shelf, and 5 on the Wells shelf, and they are still there. They do get removed from the carousel when completed, though. I hope mine is the correct behaviour, because I'd be unhappy if Kobo think that removing books from shelves because they have been completed is an acceptable way of doing things!

Unfortunately, I haven't any suggestions for you, merely letting you now that I see different behaviour than you describe.

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Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

If I go from the book back to the Home page, the carousel display at first shows this text faux-cover for the book, and then after a second or two that updates to show the actual cover of the book, so I know the graphic is still there. If I then go back into the book, and manually put the KT to sleep, then the sleep screen display is the correct cover of the book ... but just the first time. The next time the KT goes to sleep with that book open, it's back to the device-generated book title display.

Almost the same behaviour as mine, but mine always goes to the cover when sleeping, and then to the text when it goes to auto power off (but, based on a quick test, not when powered off from the switch). I think davidfor's comments are really the case - there is a bug that shows up on some machines but not others.

HarleyB · 08-24-2012, 08:29 PM

I have the same behaviour as Peakcrew. When a book is finished it is removed from the carousel but not from my shelves. I know this because I have a shelf called "To be read" and when I finish a book I have to manually remove it from that shelf.

I (and many other people) have the book cover bug. I got so sick of the Kobo never displaying the correct cover that I changed my settings so that my Kobo never goes to sleep. I'd rather have to recharge more often than never be sure what book I'm about to open.

08-20-2012, 02:48 PM	#871
Anak Guru Posts: 603 Karma: 641742 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: DE Device: Kobo Glo	Book disappears from library A side loaded ebook disappears from the library of my KT. The book is still in de Digital Editions folder of the KT but doesn't show in the library. Connecting the KT to a computer (USB cable) and disconnecting without changing anything makes the book reappear in the library but when the KT is switched off and then turned on again the book has disappeared ones again. KT: 2.0.0. (r411166) / Desktop: 3.0.1 Book: no DRM Solution: upgraded the KT firmware to 2.0.2. Books don't disappear anymore but I still don't know what caused the problem in the first place. Last edited by Anak; 08-20-2012 at 04:45 PM.

08-22-2012, 10:42 PM	#874
KTREADER Updating Posts: 27 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Ontario Device: KT	LOGOUT KOBO DESKTOP AND Firmware 2.0 and Shelves The firmware 2.0 seemed to update fine for me and only noticed two functions that didn't work. One was the annotations and percent of book read which was in the thousands of percent. The other was the Shelf for categories which seemed to have failed the update. A suggestion by some users to "LOGOUT OF KOBO DESKTOP SOFTWARE" worked for me and was able to use the SHELF function as it was intended. I haven't tested the percent read in annotations yet but will try to report back. Thanks for the help and efforts

08-23-2012, 01:46 PM	#878
MacEachaidh Browser Posts: 745 Karma: 578294 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura HD	My KT's on the "official" release of FW 2.0, and lately I've been creating some shelves and have discovered what I think are undesirable behaviours by the firmware. I'm mentioning them here to see if others have seen them as well, but also because I suspect they're bugs. 1) When I finish a book that's been added to a shelf, the book is marked complete, and left in my Lbrary, but it's automatically removed from the Shelf. Note I haven't deleted the book; as I said it's still in my main Library; it just no longer appears on the Shelf it was previously assigned to. 2) If I'm reading a book that's included on a Shelf I've created, when my KT goes into sleep mode it doesn't use the book's cover as a screen display; instead it generates a text screen with the book's display name from the file's metadata in a large (24pt or so), italicised serif font as a title. I know it's the KT doing that, because that screen doesn't exist anywhere in the actual e.book, and it's always the same font and formatting, regardless of the book itself, for every Shelved book on my KT. (If I'm reading a book that hasn't been assigned to a Shelf and let the KT go into sleep mode, the sleep display is still the book's cover ... well, allowing for the bug of the firmware using the previous book's cover the first time it goes into sleep mode.) I haven't found any user options to turn these behaviours on or off. Removing a completed book from a Shelf seems like a bug; the display of a device-generated title seems harmless enough, but it is unexpected. What's wrong with the book's cover for the sleep display, as we used to have? Or is this simply a bug, and the text display of the book's metatitle was intended for another purpose? Have other people seen these? Last edited by MacEachaidh; 08-23-2012 at 01:49 PM.

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08-22-2012, 11:04 PM	#875
beautifulsoup Addict Posts: 262 Karma: 1143088 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Too many ereaders.	I'm still chicken to update from 1.9.17

08-24-2012, 08:29 PM	#885
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