A Flash in the Pan (or Punch the Monkey)

kennyc · 08-19-2012, 07:55 AM

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Hey, Guys, Remember When You Used To Care About Flash?
John Biggs

I wanted to take a moment to pour out a little Club Mate in honor of Flash on mobile and to point out that it wasn’t two years ago that the Flash/iPhone wars were top of mind for most people. Heck, even Steve Jobs chimed in when it looked bleakest.

But, as we learned last year, mobile Flash was dead. Kaput. Deceased. No longer. Ex.

And now it’s gone forever. You can’t download it, you can’t run it on many mobile devices, and Adobe has set its sights on Air as a capable replacement for whatever Flash was good for.

And you guys are quiet?

I only bring this up because I want you guys to remember the anger we all expressed in regards to Flash and the iPhone. The results for “iPhone flash sucks” brings up countless top ten lists talking about why Flash on the iPhone would be totally amazing and why Android is much better because it supports Flash. And now, suddenly, it doesn’t matter.

Where is the outrage? Where are the flame wars? Why are there no open letters to Adobe? It’s because people have moved on and it’s actually kind of appalling to see. All that energy wasted. All that ill-placed anger. We see hundreds of comments almost daily accusing us of some sort of fanboism. We write a pro-Google post and we hate Apple. We write a pro-Apple post and we get nailed for being against Google. But you guys are going to let Flash go without a fight? Show some anger, because as I recall this used to be a big deal for you guys.
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http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/18/hey...e-about-flash/

tubemonkey · 08-19-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/18/hey...e-about-flash/

punch the monkey???

No, no, no! Don't punch the monkey

Greg Anos · 08-19-2012, 08:49 AM

Just a bunch more content to be lost...In 10 years somebody will have a Flash emulator for those great old flash videos...

fjtorres · 08-19-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

punch the monkey???

No, no, no! Don't punch the monkey

A chance to win an iPhone!!!

Be still my beating heart.

(ASPCA operators standing by.)

Fluribus · 08-19-2012, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

punch the monkey???

No, no, no! Don't punch the monkey

Punch. Never. Everyone knows that you're supposed to SHOCK the monkey.

tubemonkey · 08-20-2012, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluribus

Punch. Never. Everyone knows that you're supposed to SHOCK the monkey.

FatDog · 08-20-2012, 06:50 PM

I think it is because Flash was used for web-interfaces to serve the content. Many blogs or forums used flash to do more interesting user-interfaces that HTML could not do.

For mobile devices - the same web page layout & features do NOT work as well with a touch/swipe on a phone or tablet sized interface. So developers have been busy building native iOS or Android apps that do not rely on web-technologies.

So the market need for Flash has dropped. Mobile apps, tablets, smart TV's and media servers like Roku, Western Digital, etc., are the new hot properties. And of course native apps get higher ratings in iTunes and Google Play than re-packaged web pages. (Look at the Bank of America app - simply links to their web page in a I-Frame on your phone or tablet. Universally poor ratings.)

RainingLemur · 08-21-2012, 02:43 PM

http://www.addictinggames.com/funny-games/monkey.jsp

Or...You could spank...erm...uh, the monkey.

steven522 · 08-22-2012, 12:17 PM

If Flash is really dead, then does that mean I can take all of the flash-block software off of my different electronic devices?

steven522 · 08-22-2012, 12:18 PM

Oh, and this:

Namekuseijin · 08-22-2012, 01:45 PM

iPhone not only killed flash but also did a good job in halting the web revolution: why develop a web page accessible from anywhere from any device when it's quite much better to have an app for it for 99 cents for each device?

Matth79 · 08-22-2012, 02:32 PM

Leaves me wishing I'd got hold of an Android pad, flash enabled, while I had the chance - be quite some time before many get upgraded to Jellybean 4.1, most makers are only just rolling out ICS 4.0

DebbyS · 08-22-2012, 03:48 PM

Flash dead? Maybe on some devices, I guess, but it's still used by YouTube. YouTube videos download into my PC's internet explorer cache as "videoplayback" (no .flv, have to add that when I grab and rename them) and can be played on VLC, though I use YouTube Video catching software to collect such videos. They usually turn into FLV files when the program is done. Note that I don't have a "smart" phone or any kind of cell phone, so I'm not technically advanced enough to realize some devices can't see flash videos now...

I'll keep boring old Windows XP and my dial-up phone for now.

AnemicOak · 08-22-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DebbyS

Flash dead? Maybe on some devices, I guess, but it's still used by YouTube.

For now. They're working on replacing it with HTML5 (in beta right now).

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08-19-2012, 08:49 AM	#3
Greg Anos Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,546 Karma: 37057604 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Pocketbook	Just a bunch more content to be lost...In 10 years somebody will have a Flash emulator for those great old flash videos...

08-20-2012, 06:50 PM	#7
FatDog Witless protection Agent Posts: 290 Karma: 1002898 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Los Angeles Device: Kindle	I think it is because Flash was used for web-interfaces to serve the content. Many blogs or forums used flash to do more interesting user-interfaces that HTML could not do. For mobile devices - the same web page layout & features do NOT work as well with a touch/swipe on a phone or tablet sized interface. So developers have been busy building native iOS or Android apps that do not rely on web-technologies. So the market need for Flash has dropped. Mobile apps, tablets, smart TV's and media servers like Roku, Western Digital, etc., are the new hot properties. And of course native apps get higher ratings in iTunes and Google Play than re-packaged web pages. (Look at the Bank of America app - simply links to their web page in a I-Frame on your phone or tablet. Universally poor ratings.)

08-21-2012, 02:43 PM	#8
RainingLemur Spork Connoisseur Posts: 2,355 Karma: 16780603 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Nook Color	http://www.addictinggames.com/funny-games/monkey.jsp Or...You could spank...erm...uh, the monkey.

08-22-2012, 12:17 PM	#9
steven522 binomial: homo legentem Posts: 1,061 Karma: 25222222 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Alabama, USA Device: iriver Story HD; Archos 80 G9	If Flash is really dead, then does that mean I can take all of the flash-block software off of my different electronic devices?

08-22-2012, 12:18 PM	#10
steven522 binomial: homo legentem Posts: 1,061 Karma: 25222222 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Alabama, USA Device: iriver Story HD; Archos 80 G9	Oh, and this:

08-22-2012, 01:45 PM	#11
Namekuseijin affordable chipmunk Posts: 1,290 Karma: 9863855 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brazil Device: Sony XPeria ZL, Kindle Paperwhite	iPhone not only killed flash but also did a good job in halting the web revolution: why develop a web page accessible from anywhere from any device when it's quite much better to have an app for it for 99 cents for each device?

08-22-2012, 02:32 PM	#12
Matth79 Zealot Posts: 122 Karma: 502620 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kobo Touch	Leaves me wishing I'd got hold of an Android pad, flash enabled, while I had the chance - be quite some time before many get upgraded to Jellybean 4.1, most makers are only just rolling out ICS 4.0

08-22-2012, 03:48 PM	#13
DebbyS Zealot Posts: 115 Karma: 1472692 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Device: Jetbook Lite; Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (7.0)	Flash dead? Maybe on some devices, I guess, but it's still used by YouTube. YouTube videos download into my PC's internet explorer cache as "videoplayback" (no .flv, have to add that when I grab and rename them) and can be played on VLC, though I use YouTube Video catching software to collect such videos. They usually turn into FLV files when the program is done. Note that I don't have a "smart" phone or any kind of cell phone, so I'm not technically advanced enough to realize some devices can't see flash videos now... I'll keep boring old Windows XP and my dial-up phone for now.