Why lump SF and Fantasy together - Page 6

HarryT · 07-30-2012, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ebusinesstutor

Are there "Western" conventions? Or is it just us scifi and fantasy fans to like to go to conventions?

There are certainly mystery conventions - lots of them; I'd guess as many as SF cons.

HarryT · 07-30-2012, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

And the science behind creating the dragons from the dragonettes makes it SF. The Pern books are science fiction with fantasy elements.

I prefer to think that Pern started out as straight fantasy, and McCaffrey deliberately changed it into SF by introducing a scientific explanation for the dragons. But perhaps that was the plan all along - I don't know.

tompe · 07-30-2012, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

There are certainly mystery conventions - lots of them; I'd guess as many as SF cons.

I do not believe that at all. Most SF cons are very small and I really have not heard about this kind of small mystery cons at all. Mystery cons also are more targeted to professionals.

HarryT · 07-30-2012, 06:39 AM

I could very well be wrong - I did say it was a guess

. But if you do a Google search for "mystery convention" you'll find that there a lot of them.

tompe · 07-30-2012, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I could very well be wrong - I did say it was a guess

. But if you do a Google search for "mystery convention" you'll find that there a lot of them.

Well, I get more hits for sciencfe fiction cons and checking the lists for cons of different types the lists of sf cons are much longer than the list of mystery cons I found.

And from what I have heard mystery cons are usually very different from sf cons. But I would really like to test a mystery con sometimes since I read a lot of mystery/crime.

HarryT · 07-30-2012, 07:19 AM

Yes, I would, too. Likewise I've never been to one.

kennyc · 07-30-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

There are certainly mystery conventions - lots of them; I'd guess as many as SF cons.

and Romance and Non-Fiction (I think ?) and ... just not a prevalent.

JD Gumby · 07-30-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I prefer to think that Pern started out as straight fantasy, and McCaffrey deliberately changed it into SF by introducing a scientific explanation for the dragons. But perhaps that was the plan all along - I don't know.

It was originally fantasy - the prologue establishing it as SF didn't show up until "Weyr Search" & "Dragonrider" were collected (along with "Crack Dust, Black Dust", previously unpublished) into "Dragonflight".

HarryT · 07-30-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JD Gumby

It was originally fantasy - the prologue establishing it as SF didn't show up until "Weyr Search" & "Dragonrider" were collected (along with "Crack Dust, Black Dust", previously unpublished) into "Dragonflight".

Thanks - that was my memory of it, but I wasn't sure if I was remembering correctly.

Freeshadow · 07-30-2012, 09:04 AM

I assume the western and historical people meet at living history, reenactment events and alikes.

Sil_liS · 07-30-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hidari

One elf's dragonslayer sword is another Klingon's lazer blaster.

One flying magical castle is another spaceship.

QuantumIguana · 07-30-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ebusinesstutor

Are there "Western" conventions? Or is it just us scifi and fantasy fans to like to go to conventions?

I think there are. They aren't as common.

applesauce · 07-30-2012, 10:39 AM

How to pick between sci fi and fantasy. I have seen every star trek ep more than once, but would poke my eyes out before reading a book. I demand a more adult theme for my reading. I would love to try a Firefly book.
Fantasy I loved adored the Game of Thrones books but would never in a million years read Harry Potter or Lord Of The Rings. Again I do not do children's books and require real action with adult themes, lots of real violence and you can throw in some sex.
Finding adult theme sci fi and fantasy that is not child like themed or dry as old bones is difficult.
Now add in the over running of the lists with ikkkkkk paranormal romances.

TheLongshot · 07-30-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tompe

I do not believe that at all. Most SF cons are very small and I really have not heard about this kind of small mystery cons at all. Mystery cons also are more targeted to professionals.

Oh, they certainly exist. I have a friend of mine who goes to a couple. (Along with Scifi/fantasy cons.)

MikeB1972 · 07-30-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by applesauce

I would love to try a Firefly book.

Steven Brust wrote one that didn't get picked up by the publishers so he released it for free as fanfic
http://dreamcafe.com/firefly.html
We have a copy here as well
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=brust

Was quite shiny, really had that firefly feel.

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,554 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I could very well be wrong - I did say it was a guess . But if you do a Google search for "mystery convention" you'll find that there a lot of them.

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,554 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Yes, I would, too. Likewise I've never been to one.

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Freeshadow temp. out of service Posts: 2,815 Karma: 24285242 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Duisburg (DE) Device: PB 623	I assume the western and historical people meet at living history, reenactment events and alikes.

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applesauce Addict Posts: 387 Karma: 3553492 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Perth Western Australia Device: kindle oasis	How to pick between sci fi and fantasy. I have seen every star trek ep more than once, but would poke my eyes out before reading a book. I demand a more adult theme for my reading. I would love to try a Firefly book. Fantasy I loved adored the Game of Thrones books but would never in a million years read Harry Potter or Lord Of The Rings. Again I do not do children's books and require real action with adult themes, lots of real violence and you can throw in some sex. Finding adult theme sci fi and fantasy that is not child like themed or dry as old bones is difficult. Now add in the over running of the lists with ikkkkkk paranormal romances.