Fujitsu to commercialize e-reader with color e-paper in the fall (CrunchGear) - Page 2

pilotbob · 07-14-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

really ? is the car backlit ?

I'm not sure... read about it yourself: http://jalopnik.com/cars/news/tata-t...car-120846.php

BOb

seajewel · 07-14-2008, 09:00 PM

If it's not e-ink, and doesn't have the same wonderful readability, but DOES have even longer page turns, why would anyone want this over, say, a cheaper tablet PC? Maybe the display is still better than regular backlit LCDs, but it seems like the advantage had better be big to justify such a price tag.

Cthulhu · 07-14-2008, 09:09 PM

We need to form a syndicate to purchase the A8 & a bedazzle. We let some gals loose with shiny dots, load it with pretty pictures, & shove it into P. Hilton's purse next to her dog.

With buzz like that, all the hipsters will want one, and the company will either fold from not being able to support the demand, or the price will drop.

Anyone know how to run a Dedazzling device?

astrodad · 07-14-2008, 09:39 PM

Oh man the ergonomics on that thing are terrible. Where are the page turning buttons? In the middle? Ugh.

TallMomof2 · 07-14-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

We need to form a syndicate to purchase the A8 & a bedazzle. We let some gals loose with shiny dots, load it with pretty pictures, & shove it into P. Hilton's purse next to her dog.

With buzz like that, all the hipsters will want one, and the company will either fold from not being able to support the demand, or the price will drop.

Anyone know how to run a Dedazzling device?

You don't want to use a Bedazzler because it punches holes! Rather use Swarovski crystals and Gem-It or Jewel-It to glue the crystals on.

(I've spent many hours gluing crystals on dance costumes so they sparkle on stage.)

BKeeper · 07-14-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by seajewel

If it's not e-ink, and doesn't have the same wonderful readability, but DOES have even longer page turns, why would anyone want this over, say, a cheaper tablet PC? Maybe the display is still better than regular backlit LCDs, but it seems like the advantage had better be big to justify such a price tag.

In my case it's just too reasons:

1- Even like it is, the screen is waaay easier on the eyes than LCD. (the readability is closer to e-ink than to LCD)
2- Battery life it's great. (Even if we get something closer to 30h.)

Cthulhu · 07-14-2008, 11:25 PM

TallMom:

Thank you for volunteering for the cause. I'll bring the beer for our since syndicate meeting, you bring the crystal dealies!

jerryleejr · 07-15-2008, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

oh my. i hope the color A5 will follow soon... i wonder how much it would cost. 940$ is definitely out of my budget, but hopefully the price will go down fast...

We could probably take up a collection for you, I bet I could model This just think of the Money people would pay me to stop!

http://www.cafepress.com/mobileread.284615188

JJ

JackieFrost · 07-17-2008, 08:26 AM

I am confused as to the technology of this product. It's not eink and they claim it's lcd without a backlight? Huh? What's an lcd without a backlight? Has anyone else manufactured or prototyped such a thing? Is it lcd technology as we know it without the backlight? And how come such a thing is readable, if there is no backlight shouldn't it come out as several shades of black or almost unreadable?

M.H. · 07-17-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieFrost

I am confused as to the technology of this product. It's not eink and they claim it's lcd without a backlight? Huh? What's an lcd without a backlight? Has anyone else manufactured or prototyped such a thing? Is it lcd technology as we know it without the backlight? And how come such a thing is readable, if there is no backlight shouldn't it come out as several shades of black or almost unreadable?

I don't know what type of display this is but an lcd does not have to have a backlight. A reflective lcd has a mirror behind the lcd panel that reflects ambient light. A transmissive lcd has no mirror but instead a backlight. A transflective lcd is a mixture of the two that can be read in ambient light but has a backlight that can used when it is dark.

DaleDe · 07-17-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JackieFrost

I am confused as to the technology of this product. It's not eink and they claim it's lcd without a backlight? Huh? What's an lcd without a backlight? Has anyone else manufactured or prototyped such a thing? Is it lcd technology as we know it without the backlight? And how come such a thing is readable, if there is no backlight shouldn't it come out as several shades of black or almost unreadable?

Read about reflective LCD display in the wiki.

Dale

axel77 · 07-23-2008, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDe

Read about reflective LCD display in the wiki.

Dale

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least at this state of technology it seems to combine the disadvantages of LCD with eInk.

Look at the specs of the this device..

http://translate.google.com/translat...&sl=auto&tl=en

2 Seconds switch rate on gray, 10 on color! I mean this is redicolous slow.

On the other hand, one power of eInk is that it always looks the same indifferent on the angle you look at it. Altough modern TFTs have a hugh viewable radius, I wonder what view radius this has. I don't expect it to work when I look just over the border of the device as eInk does.

DaleDe · 07-23-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by axel77

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least at this state of technology it seems to combine the disadvantages of LCD with eInk.

Look at the specs of the this device..

http://translate.google.com/translat...&sl=auto&tl=en

2 Seconds switch rate on gray, 10 on color! I mean this is redicolous slow.

On the other hand, one power of eInk is that it always looks the same indifferent on the angle you look at it. Altough modern TFTs have a hugh viewable radius, I wonder what view radius this has. I don't expect it to work when I look just over the border of the device as eInk does.

What makes you believe that the link is reflective LCD? It is E-INK I believe. Reflective LCD cannot do colors to my knowledge but it has quick page changes, as quick as normal LCD. It basically is really is normal LCD with a mirror behind the screen instead of a light. The lack of a light source is what prevents the color since without control of the light source you can't control the color in LCD.

Dale

DaleDe · 07-23-2008, 12:01 PM

By the way, thanks for the link to the specs for FLEPia. I will build a wiki page with that data.

Dale

seajewel · 07-23-2008, 12:39 PM

This.

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Originally Posted by seamusfp

Just to clarify some confusion I see in the comments.

This is not "E Ink", this is Fujitsu's e paper technology. I do not know how it differs from E Ink, but I believe it more than likely a stacked Cholesteric Reflective LCD.

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07-14-2008, 09:00 PM	#17
seajewel Fanatic Posts: 589 Karma: 1451235 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Sony PRS-505, Sony PRS-950	If it's not e-ink, and doesn't have the same wonderful readability, but DOES have even longer page turns, why would anyone want this over, say, a cheaper tablet PC? Maybe the display is still better than regular backlit LCDs, but it seems like the advantage had better be big to justify such a price tag.

07-14-2008, 09:09 PM	#18
Cthulhu Technologist Posts: 488 Karma: 585237 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I'm between Cities Device: SONY Reader PRS-500	We need to form a syndicate to purchase the A8 & a bedazzle. We let some gals loose with shiny dots, load it with pretty pictures, & shove it into P. Hilton's purse next to her dog. With buzz like that, all the hipsters will want one, and the company will either fold from not being able to support the demand, or the price will drop. Anyone know how to run a Dedazzling device?

07-14-2008, 09:39 PM	#19
astrodad Guru Posts: 962 Karma: 568242 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Oasis 3, Kindle Paperwhite 1, iPad, iPhone	Oh man the ergonomics on that thing are terrible. Where are the page turning buttons? In the middle? Ugh.

07-14-2008, 11:25 PM	#22
Cthulhu Technologist Posts: 488 Karma: 585237 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I'm between Cities Device: SONY Reader PRS-500	TallMom: Thank you for volunteering for the cause. I'll bring the beer for our since syndicate meeting, you bring the crystal dealies!

07-17-2008, 08:26 AM	#24
JackieFrost Banned Posts: 47 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2008 Device: Plain old Laptop!	I am confused as to the technology of this product. It's not eink and they claim it's lcd without a backlight? Huh? What's an lcd without a backlight? Has anyone else manufactured or prototyped such a thing? Is it lcd technology as we know it without the backlight? And how come such a thing is readable, if there is no backlight shouldn't it come out as several shades of black or almost unreadable?

07-23-2008, 12:01 PM	#29
DaleDe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,470 Karma: 13095790 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grass Valley, CA Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7	By the way, thanks for the link to the specs for FLEPia. I will build a wiki page with that data. Dale