Touch Kobo Touch Firmware 2.0 - Page 42

SF&F Reader · 07-21-2012, 09:29 PM

Wow, 41 pages. . . took awhile to read through

I haven't upgraded, and from the sounds of things I think I will wait to see what's coming with the next update.

I just wanted to clear one thing up; yes, I was a complainer when the carousel first appeared. My objections were twofold:

1. Clutter - It took up a lot of screen real-estate that forced some useful links into menus (but gave us a quick way to access the shortlist, I will concede that) and it clashed with the design of the book mosaic. In fact, the functionality of the carousel and the mosaic were, or could have been, redundant.

2. Bloat - The 'Recommended' books do take up some of the device's limited memory, and worse, for a function I did not want (or buy into, I thought).

My recommendation is likewise twofold:

1. Replace the mosaic and its dubious functionality with an interface (either mosaic, carousel, or something similar) that is user defined in a similar manner to the method used for the carousel in 1.9.17 - e.g. 'Reading', 'Shortlist', 'Recently Added', etc.

2. No more bloat please.

In fact, I would like the ads to be completely removed, but that seems less and less likely to happen

P.s. Put the clock back where it was!

filmo · 07-21-2012, 09:40 PM

Still caption with each cover with title and author. This simple fix make home screen much or useable with unreadable covers I can't read even with magnifying glass. Already have this with books in library listings.

danskmacabre · 07-21-2012, 10:03 PM

After reading taming's advice (Thanks taming

) that this is not a proper release, I will NOT be upgrading to 2.0.2.
I'll wait until an official release comes out and its been around for a while to make sure it's just as fast and stable as 1.9.17.

TBH, I quite like 1.9.17, it's really fast and reliable. I WOULD like the shelves tho, but can wait as long as it takes for the kobo devs to get it right.

meeera · 07-21-2012, 10:35 PM

I've now downgraded from 2.0.0 to 1.9.17, and the difference is immediate and substantial. The whole interface is faster, the pageturns on sideloaded epubs are massively so, and I welcomed my homepage Shortlist back with open arms. I'm gonna be sticking here for a while, I think.

murg · 07-22-2012, 04:07 AM

More weirdness with 2.0.0.c...

It isn't completely removing kepubs when switching accounts. So, you have the cover on the Home screen, but the book can't be opened.

And then my Touch did a reset when I tried to open a sideloaded book, and erased all the sideloaded books in the process.

murg · 07-22-2012, 04:30 AM

Decided to take advantage of the wiping of my Touch to try to 2.0.2 firmware. (1.9.11 -> 2.0.2)

Nope. Dancing squares forever on startup.

Wonder if this is due to the Spanish dictionaries being back in the release.

Now heading back to 2.0.0.c...

geenp · 07-22-2012, 05:00 AM

Quite pleased with this upgrade, eventhough the old version + plugin did most of what I wanted. I like having shelves and the settings button is very convenient. I do miss having the shortlist at the bottom of my homescreen though.

My device is also much more responsive now.

DrNefario · 07-22-2012, 05:47 AM

I still haven't had a really long play with firmware 2.0, but add me to the list of those thinking of downgrading.

For some reason none of my kepubs are now willing to break a page in the middle of a paragraph. This makes some pages unusually short. It is pretty infuriating, and almost unreadable. Added to the bizarre font size issues, this is not encouraging me to get my books from Kobo.

murg · 07-22-2012, 06:00 AM

DrNefario's post reminded me, a sideloaded ePub broke the page at the top of an internal html <table> (so the entire table was on the next page), where most of the table would have fit on the page.

Shai-Hulud · 07-22-2012, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danskmacabre

TBH, I quite like 1.9.17, it's really fast and reliable.

Did you never experience any dead taps/double taps? That said ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrNefario

I still haven't had a really long play with firmware 2.0, but add me to the list of those thinking of downgrading.

Likewise - and I did. I reverted to 1.9.17 last night after a week of "beta testing" 2.00. Thusfar I find 1.9.17 the least distracting* from doing what I bought the KT for: reading epubs (aforementioned "tap" issues and missing top margin notwithstanding). All the sales fluff is a barrier to enjoying my books (Kobo marketing people please take note).

* I didn't say "the best". I find the default social media/google analytics tracking of my habits quite invasive if not insidious.

meeera · 07-22-2012, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shai-Hulud

Likewise - and I did. I reverted to 1.9.17 last night after a week of "beta testing" 2.00. Thusfar I find 1.9.17 the least distracting* from doing what I bought the KT for: reading epubs (aforementioned "tap" issues and missing top margin notwithstanding).

I've found fewer dead taps since I factory-reset and downgraded, but I have no idea if that will persist. I'm happy to report that the top margin problem is easily fixed with Calibre and a reconvert.

toeragamuffin · 07-22-2012, 07:33 AM

Yeah i was a bit premature in my diagnosis of the unofficial 2.0.2 update, things are still not right. And why isn't my wireless working? Has anyone else had this problem? Wifi is turned on but cannot connect!! I still don't want to lose my shelves because the system of finding books to put in the shelves is so bad it took me over an hour to sort out. All i can say is i really hope and expect that kobo are working around the clock trying to sort this shitty update out because it was a pretty lame release really.. Also the help contact was pitiful, i got an email discussing 'what we spoke about in the call earlier', clearly intended for another confused customer because i never called them at all!

Shai-Hulud · 07-22-2012, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meeera

I've found fewer dead taps since I factory-reset and downgraded, but I have no idea if that will persist. I'm happy to report that the top margin problem is easily fixed with Calibre and a reconvert.

It was a relatively minor issue for me, more of an annoyance really that was usually rectified by a quick back-tap when it did manifest.

I wouldn't go so far as to reconvert my epubs to soft-fix the top margin issue however when it's a bug in the firmware that's causing it. When the firmware issues *are* addressed, you risk introducing your own formatting problems (unless you never plan to go down the upgrade path of course).

meeera · 07-22-2012, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shai-Hulud

I wouldn't go so far as to reconvert my epubs to soft-fix the top margin issue however when it's a bug in the firmware that's causing it. When the firmware issues *are* addressed, you risk introducing your own formatting problems (unless you never plan to go down the upgrade path of course).

*shrug* It's easy enough to convert 'em back again. Takes a few hours, but it runs in the background, so it's only really a minute or three of my time.

(For what it's worth, when I did trial the 2.0 release with the epubs with a hard top margin, no new bugs in top-margin became apparent.)

Shai-Hulud · 07-22-2012, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toeragamuffin

And why isn't my wireless working? Has anyone else had this problem? Wifi is turned on but cannot connect!!

You do realise that "wireless being on" and "being connected to your chosen wifi network" are two separate things right? I would check your wifi access point settings and re-enter if necessary as FWIW mine were erased post 2.0.0 (as were my favourites).

07-22-2012, 04:30 AM	#621
murg No Comment Posts: 3,240 Karma: 23878043 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Australia Device: Kobo: Not just an eReader, it's an adventure!	Decided to take advantage of the wiping of my Touch to try to 2.0.2 firmware. (1.9.11 -> 2.0.2) Nope. Dancing squares forever on startup. Wonder if this is due to the Spanish dictionaries being back in the release. Now heading back to 2.0.0.c... Last edited by murg; 07-22-2012 at 04:35 AM.

07-22-2012, 07:33 AM	#627
toeragamuffin Member Posts: 10 Karma: 44 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Kobo touch	2.0 sucks donkeys nuts Yeah i was a bit premature in my diagnosis of the unofficial 2.0.2 update, things are still not right. And why isn't my wireless working? Has anyone else had this problem? Wifi is turned on but cannot connect!! I still don't want to lose my shelves because the system of finding books to put in the shelves is so bad it took me over an hour to sort out. All i can say is i really hope and expect that kobo are working around the clock trying to sort this shitty update out because it was a pretty lame release really.. Also the help contact was pitiful, i got an email discussing 'what we spoke about in the call earlier', clearly intended for another confused customer because i never called them at all!

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SF&F Reader Groupie Posts: 150 Karma: 100855 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Device: Kobo Touch, Blackberry Playbook, Samsung Galaxy SII HD LTE	Wow, 41 pages. . . took awhile to read through I haven't upgraded, and from the sounds of things I think I will wait to see what's coming with the next update. I just wanted to clear one thing up; yes, I was a complainer when the carousel first appeared. My objections were twofold: 1. Clutter - It took up a lot of screen real-estate that forced some useful links into menus (but gave us a quick way to access the shortlist, I will concede that) and it clashed with the design of the book mosaic. In fact, the functionality of the carousel and the mosaic were, or could have been, redundant. 2. Bloat - The 'Recommended' books do take up some of the device's limited memory, and worse, for a function I did not want (or buy into, I thought). My recommendation is likewise twofold: 1. Replace the mosaic and its dubious functionality with an interface (either mosaic, carousel, or something similar) that is user defined in a similar manner to the method used for the carousel in 1.9.17 - e.g. 'Reading', 'Shortlist', 'Recently Added', etc. 2. No more bloat please. In fact, I would like the ads to be completely removed, but that seems less and less likely to happen P.s. Put the clock back where it was!

07-21-2012, 09:40 PM	#617
filmo Wizard Posts: 1,326 Karma: 1077205 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kobo Touch, Sony T1, Kobo Mini	Still caption with each cover with title and author. This simple fix make home screen much or useable with unreadable covers I can't read even with magnifying glass. Already have this with books in library listings.

07-21-2012, 10:03 PM	#618
danskmacabre Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 3593438 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Glo. Galaxy Tab S 8.4	After reading taming's advice (Thanks taming ) that this is not a proper release, I will NOT be upgrading to 2.0.2. I'll wait until an official release comes out and its been around for a while to make sure it's just as fast and stable as 1.9.17. TBH, I quite like 1.9.17, it's really fast and reliable. I WOULD like the shelves tho, but can wait as long as it takes for the kobo devs to get it right.

07-21-2012, 10:35 PM	#619
meeera Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,862 Karma: 68407974 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles	I've now downgraded from 2.0.0 to 1.9.17, and the difference is immediate and substantial. The whole interface is faster, the pageturns on sideloaded epubs are massively so, and I welcomed my homepage Shortlist back with open arms. I'm gonna be sticking here for a while, I think.

07-22-2012, 04:07 AM	#620
murg No Comment Posts: 3,240 Karma: 23878043 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Australia Device: Kobo: Not just an eReader, it's an adventure!	More weirdness with 2.0.0.c... It isn't completely removing kepubs when switching accounts. So, you have the cover on the Home screen, but the book can't be opened. And then my Touch did a reset when I tried to open a sideloaded book, and erased all the sideloaded books in the process.

07-22-2012, 05:00 AM	#622
geenp Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 16628 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: none	Quite pleased with this upgrade, eventhough the old version + plugin did most of what I wanted. I like having shelves and the settings button is very convenient. I do miss having the shortlist at the bottom of my homescreen though. My device is also much more responsive now.

07-22-2012, 05:47 AM	#623
DrNefario Wizard Posts: 2,227 Karma: 12029046 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: UK Device: Kindle, Kobo Touch, Nook SimpleTouch	I still haven't had a really long play with firmware 2.0, but add me to the list of those thinking of downgrading. For some reason none of my kepubs are now willing to break a page in the middle of a paragraph. This makes some pages unusually short. It is pretty infuriating, and almost unreadable. Added to the bizarre font size issues, this is not encouraging me to get my books from Kobo.

07-22-2012, 06:00 AM	#624
murg No Comment Posts: 3,240 Karma: 23878043 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Australia Device: Kobo: Not just an eReader, it's an adventure!	DrNefario's post reminded me, a sideloaded ePub broke the page at the top of an internal html <table> (so the entire table was on the next page), where most of the table would have fit on the page.