Nexus 7: Is lack of SD card port a deal breaker for you? - Page 23

Kumabjorn · 07-16-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

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Now, if that came as a MicroSD....

HarryT · 07-16-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

Now, if that came as a MicroSD....

Heat generation's probably a limiting factor for microSD, due to its much smaller size.

Dave_S · 07-16-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

OK. My Galaxy Tab 2 specifies "up to 32GB", but I haven't tried using an XC card in it.

If you have Ice Cream Sandwich on it then it can probably handle XC. I think that the physical and electrical interfaces are the same as SDHC, but new drivers would be needed to handle the new data structures that XC uses to utilize the larger address space.

HarryT · 07-16-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave_S

If you have Ice Cream Sandwich on it then it can probably handle XC. I think that the physical and electrical interfaces are the same as SDHC, but new drivers would be needed to handle the new data structures that XC uses to utilize the larger address space.

Yes, I've got ICS. Thanks for the info - if 64GB cards fall to a reasonable price I might pick one up and see how well it works. For the moment, 32GB is all I need, so I've no particular incentive to do so.

Appreciate the help - thanks.

Kumabjorn · 07-16-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Yes, I've got ICS. Thanks for the info - if 64GB cards fall to a reasonable price I might pick one up and see how well it works. For the moment, 32GB is all I need, so I've no particular incentive to do so.

Appreciate the help - thanks.

Ahh, heat. That is a problem.
As for 64GB cards, they can be had for €60 - 70 depending on card and outlet.

HarryT · 07-16-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

Ahh, heat. That is a problem.
As for 64GB cards, they can be had for €60 - 70 depending on card and outlet.

They're still generally over twice the price of 32GB cards - or at least they were when I last looked.

Kumabjorn · 07-16-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

They're still generally over twice the price of 32GB cards - or at least they were when I last looked.

My point was that they have begun to come down in price significantly, they are less than half of what they were just a month or so ago.

HarryT · 07-16-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

My point was that they have begun to come down in price significantly, they are less than half of what they were just a month or so ago.

I need to look at the prices again, if that's the case. Thanks! I could do with a 64GB card for my camera, which eats up card space for HD video.

Kumabjorn · 07-16-2012, 12:21 PM

I was under the impression we were talking about MicroSD cards.
If you want a regular SD card for your camera they're even cheaper.

HarryT · 07-16-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

I was under the impression we were talking about MicroSD cards.

We were. Sorry to confuse the issue.

GlenBarrington · 07-17-2012, 12:16 AM

I'm seriously thinking about it. My Prs350 doesn't have an SD card slot, and I get along just fine without it.

Also, don't forget the whole Google approach has really emphasized the the connectivity aspect of computing. I think Google's vision is that of a great display and calculating device with modest storage, connected to hard drives via the internet (or if you MUST, storage that Google can't control!). It's that whole 'cloud' thing. They are doing it with productivity, entertainment, you name it. And many of their free apps of this type are as good as the 'paid for' apps.

The approach for entertainment and other assets are stored on either Googles hard drives, or some other storage media and the inherent connectivity of the device and a good internet connection allows you to have virtually unlimited storage.

At first, I wasn't too enthusiastic over this approach, but I've been involved in SalesForce at work (A Cloud based Customer Relationship Management system - enhanced to be pretty much a complete cloud database development system). I think it works pretty well.

Also, we are already sort of doing it any way! Amazon is kind of doing it for my android phone and I assume the same for all reading devices. The purchased books seem to be in a 'library' somewhere on Amazon's servers. But the app in my Droid displays the books I 'own' (a pleasant fiction I can't seem to give up!). If I want to read something, I select it, and it opens almost immediately, it downloads the book as I start to read it. At any rate, the book is then actually residing in the 'library' and on the phone, when I am done with it, I can keep it on the phone, move it to my PC, or delete it at my discretion, since I am always free to download it again.

The need to store and organize books is much simpler for the casual reader, and not any worse for the well organized Calibre user. No, I'd say I am moderately pleased with this methodology and I no longer have to worry about space management on the display device so much.

StoryEnthusiast · 07-17-2012, 01:25 AM

128G on an SD card is just mind boggling! I'm still using 1G SD cards.

tubemonkey · 07-17-2012, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GlenBarrington

The approach for entertainment and other assets are stored on either Googles hard drives, or some other storage media and the inherent connectivity of the device and a good internet connection allows you to have virtually unlimited storage.

That net connection is also the cloud's major weakness for portable devices. It becomes a deal breaker for many.

SeaKing · 07-17-2012, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

That net connection is also the cloud's major weakness for portable devices. It becomes a deal breaker for many.

Again, you have eaten from the banana tree of truth, monkey guy. Wisdom pours from your high perch in the tree.

The real elephant in the room is that "net connection." It is the elephant that will break the bridge from us to our trove of valuable data. Indeed the bridge that might take us from the stifling city to the wild jungle and a heaven of fruit.

The weight(cost) of that elephant grows day by day. It is in the elephant's nature, and it is the nature of the network providers to set that weight on our(the users) shoulders as we scurry to and fro across that bridge.

tubemonkey · 07-17-2012, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaKing

Again, you have eaten from the banana tree of truth, monkey guy. Wisdom pours from your high perch in the tree.

I have lofty company

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View Poll Results: Does lack of SD card support effect you're buying of the Nexus 7?
Yes, I'm not buying because of this.	101	41.91%
No, not a problem at all.	61	25.31%
I'm buying the 16GB because of this.	34	14.11%
I'm not in the market for a tablet, but I like to vote.	45	18.67%
Voters: 241. You may not vote on this poll

07-17-2012, 12:16 AM	#341
GlenBarrington Cheese Whiz Posts: 1,986 Karma: 11677147 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Springfield, Illinois Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Tab A 10.1(2019), Pixel 6a.	NO problem here. . . I'm seriously thinking about it. My Prs350 doesn't have an SD card slot, and I get along just fine without it. Also, don't forget the whole Google approach has really emphasized the the connectivity aspect of computing. I think Google's vision is that of a great display and calculating device with modest storage, connected to hard drives via the internet (or if you MUST, storage that Google can't control!). It's that whole 'cloud' thing. They are doing it with productivity, entertainment, you name it. And many of their free apps of this type are as good as the 'paid for' apps. The approach for entertainment and other assets are stored on either Googles hard drives, or some other storage media and the inherent connectivity of the device and a good internet connection allows you to have virtually unlimited storage. At first, I wasn't too enthusiastic over this approach, but I've been involved in SalesForce at work (A Cloud based Customer Relationship Management system - enhanced to be pretty much a complete cloud database development system). I think it works pretty well. Also, we are already sort of doing it any way! Amazon is kind of doing it for my android phone and I assume the same for all reading devices. The purchased books seem to be in a 'library' somewhere on Amazon's servers. But the app in my Droid displays the books I 'own' (a pleasant fiction I can't seem to give up!). If I want to read something, I select it, and it opens almost immediately, it downloads the book as I start to read it. At any rate, the book is then actually residing in the 'library' and on the phone, when I am done with it, I can keep it on the phone, move it to my PC, or delete it at my discretion, since I am always free to download it again. The need to store and organize books is much simpler for the casual reader, and not any worse for the well organized Calibre user. No, I'd say I am moderately pleased with this methodology and I no longer have to worry about space management on the display device so much.

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07-16-2012, 12:21 PM	#339
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	I was under the impression we were talking about MicroSD cards. If you want a regular SD card for your camera they're even cheaper.

07-17-2012, 01:25 AM	#342
StoryEnthusiast K. C. Lee Posts: 584 Karma: 3652522 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New Zealand Device: Android phone	128G on an SD card is just mind boggling! I'm still using 1G SD cards.