MPAA/RIAA's ' 6 strikes ' anti-pirate policy coming soon ... be afraid

MikeOxlittle · 07-14-2012, 12:56 AM

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Somewhere in the near future the Center for Copyright Information (CCI) will start to track down online ‘pirates’ as part of an agreement all major US Internet providers struck with the MPAA and RIAA.

The parties agreed on a system through which copyright infringers are warned that their behavior is unacceptable. After five or six warnings ISPs may then take a variety of repressive measures, including temporary disconnections.

5 or 6 warnings? They are really putting their feet down aren't they.

afv011 · 07-14-2012, 02:42 AM

such a waste of time and resources. they may scare uncle Bob, but real pirates will know how to circumvent any measures in place to catch them. nothing will change, though you can bet they will make an announcement with lots of fanfare about how much piracy has been reduced as a result.

BWinmill · 07-14-2012, 05:23 AM

They don't have to stop the real pirates. They only have to discourage the people who do it because they think they're hiding behind anonymity (when they aren't). In the long run, it will likely have a stronger impact because people are more likely to make mistakes.

My main concern though is how they define piracy. If they define it based upon the protocols used, then it there are going to be a lot of false positives. Even though the majority of people use peer to peer for illicit purposes, some people do use it for legal purposes. What is their definition of fair use going to be? Being backed by industry, it is likely to be a much lower threshold than the law would define. And what are they going to do about people who just don't understand what is legal and what isn't? It's easy to say don't download anything unless you buy it (again, industry bias), but some stores sell illegal goods and some people legitimately offer free books/music/software.

wizwor · 07-14-2012, 05:34 AM

I'm guessing this is going to lead to a spike in file sharing as people attempt to download the entire internet in advance of the crackdown.

DarkScribe · 07-14-2012, 05:55 AM

We have had that in effect for some time now, but it seems to have made little difference. The ISPs won against court case that sought to hold them responsible for their user's actions. The worst you get now is a "naughty-naughty" warning from them. I have yet to hear of anyone actually being cut off. One ISP, if it finds a user using a torrent to download pirated files, will temporarily drop the customer's speed back to 64Kb/s. That's slower than dial-up. When the customer realises that it will take them months to download a new release HD movie they give up and their speed is restored.

With QuickFlix being so cheap, and the downloads so fast, why bother pirating? Quickflix has current release movies available at less than the cost of a single cinema ticket. It also has a huge library of 50,000 older movies and most popular TV shows. $14.99 dollars a month for unlimited downloads.

HarryT · 07-14-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkScribe

With QuickFlix being so cheap, and the downloads so fast, why bother pirating?

Not everybody has access to such services. I've never heard of the one you mention.

SteveEisenberg · 07-14-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by afv011

such a waste of time and resources.

Internet headlines do not correlate with costs. Time and resources will be minimal compared to the likely hundreds of daily arrests of people accuseds of shoplifting a DVD.

My only fear here is that they won't be protecting books.

Quexos · 07-14-2012, 09:32 AM

Ok I'm afraid. There, I hope the MPAA/RIAA is happy. My Saturday is wasted in fear and anxiety.

mr ploppy · 07-14-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BWinmill

They don't have to stop the real pirates. They only have to discourage the people who do it because they think they're hiding behind anonymity (when they aren't).

You mean the people who used to buy pirate CDR/DVDRs from boot fairs before they found out how easy it was to do it themself and therefore had more money to spend on entertainment? Guess what they will go back to doing ...

cjr72 · 07-14-2012, 10:01 AM

I'm not to worried about this, I gave my networked printer a stern talking to.

markbot · 07-14-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeOxlittle

Be very afraid ...

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5 or 6 warnings? They are really putting their feet down aren't they.

I have nothing to worry about since I don't pirate.

mr ploppy · 07-14-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by markbot

I have nothing to worry about since I don't pirate.

You reckon?

http://cyberarms.wordpress.com/2012/...ice-swat-raid/

It's also very easy to crack a wifi password or clone a modem.

HarryT · 07-14-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mr ploppy

You mean the people who used to buy pirate CDR/DVDRs from boot fairs before they found out how easy it was to do it themself and therefore had more money to spend on entertainment? Guess what they will go back to doing ...

So what are you saying? That we shouldn't prosecute people who commit piracy?

Catlady · 07-14-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

So what are you saying? That we shouldn't prosecute people who commit piracy?

Shouldn't there be a distinction between those who are distributing/selling the material and those who are receiving/buying it?

Quexos · 07-14-2012, 05:21 PM

hmm ... to save $14.99 ?

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Originally Posted by DarkScribe

With QuickFlix being so cheap, and the downloads so fast, why bother pirating? Quickflix has current release movies available at less than the cost of a single cinema ticket. It also has a huge library of 50,000 older movies and most popular TV shows. $14.99 dollars a month for unlimited downloads.

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07-14-2012, 02:42 AM	#2
afv011 Captain Penguin Posts: 2,964 Karma: 2079777777 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Device: Kobo Clara BW, Kobo Libra 2, Nook Glowlight	such a waste of time and resources. they may scare uncle Bob, but real pirates will know how to circumvent any measures in place to catch them. nothing will change, though you can bet they will make an announcement with lots of fanfare about how much piracy has been reduced as a result.

07-14-2012, 05:23 AM	#3
BWinmill Nameless Being	They don't have to stop the real pirates. They only have to discourage the people who do it because they think they're hiding behind anonymity (when they aren't). In the long run, it will likely have a stronger impact because people are more likely to make mistakes. My main concern though is how they define piracy. If they define it based upon the protocols used, then it there are going to be a lot of false positives. Even though the majority of people use peer to peer for illicit purposes, some people do use it for legal purposes. What is their definition of fair use going to be? Being backed by industry, it is likely to be a much lower threshold than the law would define. And what are they going to do about people who just don't understand what is legal and what isn't? It's easy to say don't download anything unless you buy it (again, industry bias), but some stores sell illegal goods and some people legitimately offer free books/music/software.

07-14-2012, 05:34 AM	#4
wizwor Wizard Posts: 1,068 Karma: 23867385 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kindle, fire	I'm guessing this is going to lead to a spike in file sharing as people attempt to download the entire internet in advance of the crackdown.

07-14-2012, 05:55 AM	#5
DarkScribe Apprentice Curmudgeon. Posts: 427 Karma: 3286968 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Runaway Bay, QLD, , Australia Device: Kindle DX Graphite, Touch, Paperwhite, Sony, and Nook.	We have had that in effect for some time now, but it seems to have made little difference. The ISPs won against court case that sought to hold them responsible for their user's actions. The worst you get now is a "naughty-naughty" warning from them. I have yet to hear of anyone actually being cut off. One ISP, if it finds a user using a torrent to download pirated files, will temporarily drop the customer's speed back to 64Kb/s. That's slower than dial-up. When the customer realises that it will take them months to download a new release HD movie they give up and their speed is restored. With QuickFlix being so cheap, and the downloads so fast, why bother pirating? Quickflix has current release movies available at less than the cost of a single cinema ticket. It also has a huge library of 50,000 older movies and most popular TV shows. $14.99 dollars a month for unlimited downloads.

07-14-2012, 09:32 AM	#8
Quexos Member Retired Posts: 1,999 Karma: 11348924 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Limbo Device: none	Ok I'm afraid. There, I hope the MPAA/RIAA is happy. My Saturday is wasted in fear and anxiety.

07-14-2012, 10:01 AM	#10
cjr72 Groupie Posts: 172 Karma: 2900000 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: A Yankee in Texas Device: Nexus 6p, Nexus 10	I'm not to worried about this, I gave my networked printer a stern talking to.