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Old 07-09-2012, 01:51 PM   #331
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People using iPads as cameras do look rather silly, don't they?
It would be like taking pictures with a dinner plate.
Really bad in a gusty wind.

I hope they have good image stabilization!
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:59 PM   #332
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Tablet + back cam = low quality, unwieldy camera

nononono

tablet + back cam equals streaming video cam with a large viewfinder enabling the parent to show the grandparents in chat what the kids are doing.

tablet + back cam equals augmented reality stuff with the kids
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It would be like taking pictures with a dinner plate.
Really bad in a gusty wind.

I hope they have good image stabilization!
I saw at least 3 people using iPads as cameras in my last trip. An eye-sore, I tell ya. I can't understand why anybody would want to use a tablet as a camera, it is cumbersome, the optics are far below what digital cameras offer and, most importantly, you look totally stupid.
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People using iPads as cameras do look rather silly, don't they?
In the 20-odd years that I took pictures professionally, I spent most of that time with my head under a black cloth making sense of an image that was upside down and back to front; if I worried about how I looked, I'd never have taken a single picture.

I use my iPad a fair bit for taking work-related photos and every time I marvel at how gorgeous that screen is - like holding up a perfectly exposed 10x8 transparency up to the light - and how easy it is to compose a shot on that big screen.

Still don't give much of a toss about how I look when I'm shooting, 'cos at the end of the day all there is are the pictures - however they were captured
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:12 PM   #335
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tablet + back cam equals streaming video cam with a large viewfinder enabling the parent to show the grandparents in chat what the kids are doing.
Right, but that is if you have both cameras, and sometimes switch to the back one. I though the original comment was that given the choice of only one, the front was more important.
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:43 PM   #336
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People using iPads as cameras do look rather silly, don't they?
Well it makes perfect sense to me. Why carry a 4" camera where the viewfinder works in daylight when you can carry a 10" device where the viewfinder is near impossible to see in broad daylight. And who cares about optical zoom when you can use digital zoom to future degrade an already crappy image.


Actually I've only seen one case where recording with an iPad/tablet was more practical than using a camera or camcorder.

As a wrestling coach it's extremely difficult to record and coach using traditional tools. The iPad has a big enough view finder that it is easy to see the both the screen and the match at the same time. Some coaches just use the iPad viewfinder to view the match. Since all wrestling events are indoors you don't have the screen bleached out.

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Update Best Buy, Staples and Future Shop Canada have added "Pre Orders" to their company web store.

In addition to Game Stop, Staples will also be caring the Nexus 7" in their Brick and Mortar store. Staples has mentioned they will carry both models

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Old 07-09-2012, 04:15 PM   #338
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There are an increasing number of foreign language apps that do real time OCR. Back cams aren't just for photos. And while a 10" device might indeed make someone look silly, that's kind of what tourism is about.
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Old 07-09-2012, 04:47 PM   #339
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Update Best Buy, Staples and Future Shop Canada have added "Pre Orders" to their company web store.

In addition to Game Stop, Staples will also be caring the Nexus 7" in their Brick and Mortar store. Staples has mentioned they will carry both models

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Thanks for the update, it shouldn't be long that Best Buy actually gets them more than likely.

The nearest location is about 3 miles, I can play with one they hopefully put on display first but if not, I still would have 14 days to rip it apart at home! The poor little thing doesn't know what it is in for and hopefully it won't overheat during that time. I probably will use it more than anyone else during that time.
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I can't understand why anybody would want to use a tablet as a camera, it is cumbersome, the optics are far below what digital cameras offer and, most importantly, you look totally stupid.
But why is that any different than taking a picture with a mobile phone?
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But why is that any different than taking a picture with a mobile phone?
It isn't really. The best camera for any situation is the one you have with you. It's not much use having a 22MP DSLR to photograph your fender bender if it's sitting in the closet at home.
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A Google dev explains why the Nexus doesn't have an external SD card.

A Google dev explains why the Nexus doesn't have an external SD card.


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... We did it because we wanted to be able to merge the "public shared storage" (i.e. for music and photos) with the internal private app storage.

We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better. redit...
This is actually a real world issue for me and has happened a numerous amount of times on my Android devices. The apps I've installed on my device run out of internal memory while my SD Card is mostly empty. It seems now all the apps and local files will share the same volume.

Also the Nexus' filesystem is ext3 and not a hybrid of ext3/Fat32 which will make the device that much faster when accessing data.

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well at $239(price i saw at costco today) the 8gb Samsung Galaxy Tab 2.0 7" is a much better value/bang for the buck than the nook. It does have an SD slot so storage is up to 32gb, its slightly smaller and lighter, you can add the nook app and every other reading app available to android and its on ICS instead of ginger bread. oh and its got an ir blaster so its a universal remote. im leaving tons of stuff out too

http://www.theverge.com/products/com...2506/3767/5225
So a trade-off of lower resolution for card slot... Plus, I'd get a couple extra $$ in Costco rebate - about $236 + tax, but no shipping. I'll be there Thurs. - it may be too great a temptation to pass up. (I think)
eta: trade-off Galaxy 2 vs. Nexus 7
(ir blaster? I haven't a clue...)

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I though the original comment was that given the choice of only one, the front was more important.
ah right i see that now. still, to me, the front is useless without the back one. that ability to switch back and forth makes chat so much easier and dynamic. sitting in front of this laptop with the one camera isnt nearly as fun as having both cameras ( when tried with our friends Tab 10.1)

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excellent news . it will be handy to show the wife the differences before we decide

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A Google dev explains why the Nexus doesn't have an external SD card.




This is actually a real world issue for me and has happened a numerous amount of times on my Android devices. The apps I've installed on my device run out of internal memory while my SD Card is mostly empty. It seems now all the apps and local files will share the same volume.

Also the Nexus' filesystem is ext3 and not a hybrid of ext3/Fat32 which will make the device that much faster when accessing data.

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Sounds strange as a reason. For instance, the Galaxy SIII has 16 or 32 GB of internal storage, but it is not partitioned separately for apps and for your data, it is one big chunk for whatever you want to store in there. And, in the SIII, you can also add an external SD card of up to 64GB should you need more storage. So this explanation doesn't hold water in my view.
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