Numerals in Chapter Headings: shrinking and doing funny things

Tenzin Jane · 06-18-2012, 01:52 AM

Hi,

As a newbie I am hoping this is the right forum to ask this question. When I convert from Word into Mobi Pocket the Heading Numerals eg Chapter 3, Chapter 4 do weird things like reducing in point size or moving below the line ie they're not consistent or flush with the word Chapter. Can anyone give me some suggestions about how to solve this problem. I have been wracking my brains and trying many avenues unsuccessfully. Tenzin

Doitsu · 06-18-2012, 04:33 AM

How exactly did you create your mobi file?
Did you apply a heading style (header 1, header 2 etc.) to headings in Word or did you just format the heading directly?

DiapDealer · 06-18-2012, 07:41 AM

What are you viewing the final MOBI with?

It very well could be the font being used by the device/app. I've seen many examples where the numeral one seems smaller and vertically aligned differently than the preceding/surrounding text. I believe the KindlePreviewer (in Kindle Fire Mode) does this.

AThirstyMind · 06-19-2012, 02:30 PM

It's a function of the font, Times New Roman drops some numerals just slightly below the line. It looks fine in the eBook though. I don't agonize over it.

DiapDealer · 06-19-2012, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AThirstyMind

It's a function of the font, Times New Roman drops some numerals just slightly below the line. It looks fine in the eBook though. I don't agonize over it.

That's kind of what I thought.

Jellby · 06-19-2012, 02:57 PM

I don't think Times New Roman has "old-style" numbers, if that's the issue. It's probably a different font, like Georgia.

Tenzin Jane · 06-24-2012, 09:47 PM

Thanks for the feedback. Really appreciate it. In response to Doitsu, I applied a heading style. H1 is in Arial - which is where the numeral issues arose and H2 is in Times Roman. I'm viewing the final Mobi with Kindle Preview. So I'm getting the impression from what everyone's said that it appears to be a device/app issue although potentially it could be a function of Arial - I will report back.

Oldpilot · 07-03-2012, 06:17 PM

Are you actually using Mobipocket Creator? That may be your problem, given that Amazon has now moved beyond it.

Tenzin Jane · 07-06-2012, 11:14 PM

As I feel perennially behind the times right now can you update me Oldpilot about what 'moved beyond it' means with specifics? Thanks so much.

Oldpilot · 07-07-2012, 07:16 AM

Well, I upload html to the KDP "bookshelf". It is then converted by Kindlegen or a grownup variant of it. The recommended system is to download and use Kindlegen, which I believe is a command-line program (think DOS). I think the same effect can be had by downloading and using Amazon's "enhanced previewer" and dragging&dropping your Word to it.

Mobipocket Creator was a software Amazon bought six or so years ago to get a running start in e-books. For several years Mobi and Amazon published in parallel; then Mobi books were dropped from the Amazon store and sold only on the Mobi store. Then Mobi closed except to previous customers. Then it closed altogether and paid off those who had money owing them. With the advent of Kindle Format 8 last year (for the Fire etc), Mobipocket Creator really became obsolete or anyhow obsolescent.

JSWolf · 07-07-2012, 07:37 PM

Mobipocket Creator does not work properly with Windows 7 (with IE9) installed. So move on to Kindlegen and Kindle Previewer.

HarryT · 07-08-2012, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Mobipocket Creator does not work properly with Windows 7 (with IE9) installed. So move on to Kindlegen and Kindle Previewer.

The only part of it that doesn't work is the TOC generator. If you don't auto-generate a TOC (which I never do) it works fine with IE9. Personally what I do is to use Mobi Creator simply as an OPF editor, then I create the book with Kindlegen.

Tenzin Jane · 07-13-2012, 07:31 AM

Thank you! That's a great great help. Really appreciate it. Now I can move beyond the Mobipocket straightjacket into the wild world of KindleGen! Another journey awaits.

06-18-2012, 01:52 AM	#1
Tenzin Jane Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Kindle	Numerals in Chapter Headings: shrinking and doing funny things Hi, As a newbie I am hoping this is the right forum to ask this question. When I convert from Word into Mobi Pocket the Heading Numerals eg Chapter 3, Chapter 4 do weird things like reducing in point size or moving below the line ie they're not consistent or flush with the word Chapter. Can anyone give me some suggestions about how to solve this problem. I have been wracking my brains and trying many avenues unsuccessfully. Tenzin

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06-18-2012, 04:33 AM	#2
Doitsu Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,763 Karma: 24088559 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle PW2	How exactly did you create your mobi file? Did you apply a heading style (header 1, header 2 etc.) to headings in Word or did you just format the heading directly?

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DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,892 Karma: 207182180 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	What are you viewing the final MOBI with? It very well could be the font being used by the device/app. I've seen many examples where the numeral one seems smaller and vertically aligned differently than the preceding/surrounding text. I believe the KindlePreviewer (in Kindle Fire Mode) does this.

06-19-2012, 02:30 PM	#4
AThirstyMind A Thirsty Mind Posts: 92 Karma: 2546 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Lubec, Maine Device: Kindle Fire, iPad, iPhone	It's a function of the font, Times New Roman drops some numerals just slightly below the line. It looks fine in the eBook though. I don't agonize over it.

06-19-2012, 02:57 PM	#6
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,570 Karma: 20150435 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	I don't think Times New Roman has "old-style" numbers, if that's the issue. It's probably a different font, like Georgia.

06-24-2012, 09:47 PM	#7
Tenzin Jane Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Kindle	Thanks for the feedback. Really appreciate it. In response to Doitsu, I applied a heading style. H1 is in Arial - which is where the numeral issues arose and H2 is in Times Roman. I'm viewing the final Mobi with Kindle Preview. So I'm getting the impression from what everyone's said that it appears to be a device/app issue although potentially it could be a function of Arial - I will report back.

07-03-2012, 06:17 PM	#8
Oldpilot Groupie Posts: 184 Karma: 2572 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle	Are you actually using Mobipocket Creator? That may be your problem, given that Amazon has now moved beyond it.

07-06-2012, 11:14 PM	#9
Tenzin Jane Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Kindle	As I feel perennially behind the times right now can you update me Oldpilot about what 'moved beyond it' means with specifics? Thanks so much.

07-07-2012, 07:16 AM	#10
Oldpilot Groupie Posts: 184 Karma: 2572 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle	Well, I upload html to the KDP "bookshelf". It is then converted by Kindlegen or a grownup variant of it. The recommended system is to download and use Kindlegen, which I believe is a command-line program (think DOS). I think the same effect can be had by downloading and using Amazon's "enhanced previewer" and dragging&dropping your Word to it. Mobipocket Creator was a software Amazon bought six or so years ago to get a running start in e-books. For several years Mobi and Amazon published in parallel; then Mobi books were dropped from the Amazon store and sold only on the Mobi store. Then Mobi closed except to previous customers. Then it closed altogether and paid off those who had money owing them. With the advent of Kindle Format 8 last year (for the Fire etc), Mobipocket Creator really became obsolete or anyhow obsolescent.

07-07-2012, 07:37 PM	#11
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,784 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Mobipocket Creator does not work properly with Windows 7 (with IE9) installed. So move on to Kindlegen and Kindle Previewer.

07-13-2012, 07:31 AM	#13
Tenzin Jane Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Kindle	Thank you! That's a great great help. Really appreciate it. Now I can move beyond the Mobipocket straightjacket into the wild world of KindleGen! Another journey awaits.