Mac users steered toward costlier hotels than Windows users? - Page 2

RainingLemur · 06-27-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HappyMartin

Stupid people have always made more money than clever people

"I like money."

cjr72 · 06-27-2012, 10:24 AM

There's a Mac user born every minute?

John F · 06-27-2012, 10:25 AM

Is Orbits now selling ebooks? Readers?

Why is this in the ebook discussion thread?

Lirael · 06-27-2012, 01:49 PM

I'm a little torn on this matter.

This specific Orbitz thing doesn't bother me because the price doesn't change, and I tend to sort by price anyway. The option to do that is still intact, and they don't omit any hotels from the list.

On the other hand, I could see this being employed in a way that's less difficult to work around, and I don't like that. : /

spellbanisher · 06-27-2012, 02:11 PM

considering how much more mac users pay for their electronics, 30 percent is nothing.

jbcohen · 06-27-2012, 02:23 PM

In the IT world the word proprietary is a curse word and I will have nothing to do with apple until they give up the propretary aspect of their hardware and software. Other than that I have absolutely nothing against them at all.

pidgeon92 · 06-27-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by plib

Stupid people have always finished up with less money than clever people.

FTFY

I'm pretty sure that HappyMartin's post was meant to be ironic.

HansTWN · 06-27-2012, 07:47 PM

Perhaps Apple has started to demand a 30% cut of all sales made from Macs?

HappyMartin · 06-28-2012, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pidgeon92

I'm pretty sure that HappyMartin's post was meant to be ironic.

For sure.

plib · 06-28-2012, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pidgeon92

I'm pretty sure that HappyMartin's post was meant to be ironic.

So was mine.

plib · 06-28-2012, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lirael

I'm a little torn on this matter.

This specific Orbitz thing doesn't bother me because the price doesn't change, and I tend to sort by price anyway. The option to do that is still intact, and they don't omit any hotels from the list.

On the other hand, I could see this being employed in a way that's less difficult to work around, and I don't like that. : /

Amazon have already been caught out charging different prices to people from different post/zip codes for identical goods. I'm sure they're not the only ones. If you're going to use a proxy, or a dummy address, make sure it's not situated in Beverly Hills!

Apache · 06-28-2012, 07:50 AM

You can bet that any site you wish to purchase from is using different prices, if they ask you for your zip code first.
Apache

Greg Anos · 06-28-2012, 07:57 AM

Sounds like an economic opportunity to me...a software 'bot to maske you look like you're from a poor area...

MikeB1972 · 06-28-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

Sounds like an economic opportunity to me...a software 'bot to maske you look like you're from a poor area...

Going to be tricky getting anything delivered though

sebastianmichael · 06-28-2012, 10:00 AM

I think there are some serious cause and effect confusions evident in this thread.

The reason Mac users tend to spend more money on hotel rooms (or on anything else, for that matter) has nothing to do, of course, with how intelligent or not they are, and everything to do with how much disposable income they have.

The interesting question then is: do they have more disposable income to start with, and are therefore able to buy their more expensive Macs, or do they recognise that the Mac is a better computer, invest a higher proportion of their disposable income in their technology and as a result end up with a tool that allows them to do better work and therefore be more successful, leading to them having more disposable income, which they can then spend on hotel rooms, or on anything else that they value.

Or does the fact that they value design in a computer (for which Macs are justly as celebrated as for their superior operating system) go hand in hand with valuing design in a hotel room (which tends to express itself in price).

Or is it simply the case that on average Mac users tend to be working in fields and industries and in capacities that are higher paid with greater expenses allowances, thus enabling them to care less about the price of their hotels.

Or are they on average younger, with fewer external commitments (family, mortgage, car), and therefore both willing and able to spend more on their technology and hotel rooms...

In any case, the practice of steering Mac users towards more expensive hotel room offerings is probably borderline dubious, even though it is not, as has been pointed out, that far removed from ordinary profiling. And of course it may yet backfire: just because the average Mac user spends more money on something does not mean that they are necessarily willing or even able to do so (I'm a Mac user, but sadly this has not expressed itself in any notable amounts of disposable income just yet; but then I'm also a writer, so perhaps it never will...). If you find that a website offers you more expensive content, services or products than a competitor website you will, if you have any brains at all, work out all by yourself which website to use for your content, services and products.

The dim, in the long term, tend to turn out to be the pullers of a fast one, rather than the pullees...

06-27-2012, 10:24 AM	#17
cjr72 Groupie Posts: 172 Karma: 2900000 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: A Yankee in Texas Device: Nexus 6p, Nexus 10	There's a Mac user born every minute?

06-27-2012, 10:25 AM	#18
John F Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,002 Karma: 71261339 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kobo Clara 2E	Is Orbits now selling ebooks? Readers? Why is this in the ebook discussion thread?

06-27-2012, 01:49 PM	#19
Lirael Moomin Posts: 137 Karma: 202147 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Sony PRS-350	I'm a little torn on this matter. This specific Orbitz thing doesn't bother me because the price doesn't change, and I tend to sort by price anyway. The option to do that is still intact, and they don't omit any hotels from the list. On the other hand, I could see this being employed in a way that's less difficult to work around, and I don't like that. : /

06-27-2012, 02:11 PM	#20
spellbanisher Guru Posts: 826 Karma: 6566849 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bay Area Device: kindle keyboard, kindle fire hd, S4, Nook hd+	considering how much more mac users pay for their electronics, 30 percent is nothing.

06-27-2012, 02:23 PM	#21
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,033 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra	In the IT world the word proprietary is a curse word and I will have nothing to do with apple until they give up the propretary aspect of their hardware and software. Other than that I have absolutely nothing against them at all.

06-27-2012, 07:47 PM	#23
HansTWN Wizard Posts: 4,538 Karma: 264065402 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Taiwan Device: HP Touchpad, Sony Duo 13, Lumia 920, Kobo Aura HD	Perhaps Apple has started to demand a 30% cut of all sales made from Macs?

06-28-2012, 07:50 AM	#27
Apache Readaholic Posts: 5,306 Karma: 90981752 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Georgia Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8"	You can bet that any site you wish to purchase from is using different prices, if they ask you for your zip code first. Apache

06-28-2012, 07:57 AM	#28
Greg Anos Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,545 Karma: 37057604 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Pocketbook	Sounds like an economic opportunity to me...a software 'bot to maske you look like you're from a poor area...

06-28-2012, 10:00 AM	#30
sebastianmichael The Optimist Posts: 39 Karma: 11676 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: London Device: Kindle; iPhone	I think there are some serious cause and effect confusions evident in this thread. The reason Mac users tend to spend more money on hotel rooms (or on anything else, for that matter) has nothing to do, of course, with how intelligent or not they are, and everything to do with how much disposable income they have. The interesting question then is: do they have more disposable income to start with, and are therefore able to buy their more expensive Macs, or do they recognise that the Mac is a better computer, invest a higher proportion of their disposable income in their technology and as a result end up with a tool that allows them to do better work and therefore be more successful, leading to them having more disposable income, which they can then spend on hotel rooms, or on anything else that they value. Or does the fact that they value design in a computer (for which Macs are justly as celebrated as for their superior operating system) go hand in hand with valuing design in a hotel room (which tends to express itself in price). Or is it simply the case that on average Mac users tend to be working in fields and industries and in capacities that are higher paid with greater expenses allowances, thus enabling them to care less about the price of their hotels. Or are they on average younger, with fewer external commitments (family, mortgage, car), and therefore both willing and able to spend more on their technology and hotel rooms... In any case, the practice of steering Mac users towards more expensive hotel room offerings is probably borderline dubious, even though it is not, as has been pointed out, that far removed from ordinary profiling. And of course it may yet backfire: just because the average Mac user spends more money on something does not mean that they are necessarily willing or even able to do so (I'm a Mac user, but sadly this has not expressed itself in any notable amounts of disposable income just yet; but then I'm also a writer, so perhaps it never will...). If you find that a website offers you more expensive content, services or products than a competitor website you will, if you have any brains at all, work out all by yourself which website to use for your content, services and products. The dim, in the long term, tend to turn out to be the pullers of a fast one, rather than the pullees...