My Cybook 3 just arrived, but ...Help! - Page 2

Krystian Galaj · 07-08-2008, 09:15 PM

The symptoms you described look to me like something I was experiencing when I was trying to connect to XP through wrong USB slot. Not all of them are equal, though they may look the same. I changed the USB slot I was using, and all went fine from then on.

delphidb96 · 07-08-2008, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexBell

Since my last post there have been further developments

I have Windows XP SP2, and have updated it. I don't use a hub.

Up until last night I had problems with my computer not seeing the Cybook or it's card, and with the computer's mobipocket reader locking up. Last night I took the card out, and tried again. Everything worked well, including having the reader show up as drive K on the My computer window. And I was able to use the computer's mobipocket reader to read the Cybook. All the books I had on the computer had transferred into the Cybook.

This morning I tried again with the memory card installed - name side facing the back, the cutaway corner to the right when I'm facing the Cybook. And I had attached the Cybook while it was turned off and then turned it on.

For reasons I entirely do not understand the computer eventually recognised both the Cybook as drive K and the card as drive G, and I was able to use the computer's mobipocket reader without problem.

All the ebook files are on the Cybook. When I opened the card as drive G I saw the folders, but when I tried to open the folders each one gave a message that the files were corrupted.

Eventually either Windows or mobipocket advised me to run scandisk. I did so, and when I opened drive G again there were no folders to be seen.

Does this mean that the Cybook is defective? I don't really care whether it was defective when it came or whether I broke it, as long as I can get another one. But if I do get another one somewhere other than Bookeen is it simply a matter of me setting up the folders? How would I get the system files over to the card for example?

Finally, is there anything like a Cybook and Mobipocket Reader for Dummies anywhere so I can read all this up at my leisure?

--
Regards, Alex

No, sorry there really isn't a Cybook or Mobi Reader for Dummies.

Now, take your SD card out and insert it into the card reader. Then format the SD card to FAT32. Next, insert the SD card back into the Cybook and cycle the Cybook on and off. That should create the folders on the Cybook.

Finally, try using each of the *other* USB ports to connect the Cybook to the PC - with the properly formatted SD card in place. One of them should work. Under XP not all will.

Derek

HarryT · 07-09-2008, 02:43 AM

My experience has been that very often SD cards come with a file system that doesn't work at all reliably with the Gen3.

From your Windows machine, right click on the "SD Card" drive that mounts from the Gen3, select "Format", and reformat the card as FAT32. Then turn off the Gen3, take the card out, turn the Gen3 back on, and put the card back in. The Gen3 will recreate the required folders on the card and operation should (hopefully) be trouble-free from then on.

AlexBell · 07-09-2008, 06:16 AM

Thanks to you all.

I don't see a format option when I right click on the card. But part of my problem may be that until now I have inserted the card in the Cybook before connecting it. I'll try Harry's advice and connect the Cybook to the computer and then insert the card into the Cybook to see if a format option appears when I right click on it.

Failing that I'll look at getting a reader.

I have already tried another USB slot on my Thinkpad, and it does seem more reliable than the one I first tried.

Regards, Alex

basschick · 07-10-2008, 04:12 AM

just curious - do you need to use the card already? i have a couple hundreds books on my cybook without a card and it's not even a quarter full.

JSWolf · 07-10-2008, 06:38 AM

if you have the new version of the gen3, it has enough internal memory to hold enough books to keep you going for a good while. All the SD card would do in that case is eat the battery.

AlexBell · 07-10-2008, 07:52 AM

Thanks again to all. I've worked out a way to format the card to FAT32, and all seems to be well.

I was advised on another forum to use the card in preference to the Cybook itself, so that's what I've done. I didn't think of the disadvantages like using up the battery. Is it likely to be significant drain?

Regards, Alex

HarryT · 07-10-2008, 08:00 AM

Not really significant, no. If, like me, you keep your Gen3 fully charged by connecting it to the PC for a few minutes a day it's really not an issue. If you want to keep it permanently "on" and maximise battery life, you'll probably get a few hours more life if you don't use a card. No big deal either way.

tompe · 07-10-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

if you have the new version of the gen3, it has enough internal memory to hold enough books to keep you going for a good while. All the SD card would do in that case is eat the battery.

Do you have any support for that the SD cards eat battery in any noticeable way. According to spec of cards it does not matter compared to the total power consumption. Have you done experiments so you have other information since you often mention SD cards and battery drain on the Cybook. The Sony is a totally different machine and you should not guess what holds for the Cybook based on your experience with the Sony.

solodoc · 07-10-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexBell

I think I have a problem with my new Cybook Gen 3 which just arrived in Tasmania. I followed the instructions on the card
1 Check the components ..
2 Charging the battery - the reader is connected to a USB port on my computer with the other end of the cable attached to the reader. The LED on the top right is showing orange
3 Switching on - I held the button on the top right for about 5 seconds. The screen showed different pictures and then stopped at a screen which shows Connected... at the top and pictures of the two ends of the USB cable.
4 Browse the library. I get no response when I press the navigation button - the picture showing the ends of the cable is fixed. I can't even turn it off.

Is this normal? What should I do?

Regards, Alex

Try making sure it's charged fully, a fixed image may happen when it's discharged......or when defective

basschick · 07-10-2008, 08:13 PM

assuming that you also store your books on your computer, did the folks on the other forum mention why they felt it was an advantage to store your books on the card rather than the cybook?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexBell

Thanks again to all. I've worked out a way to format the card to FAT32, and all seems to be well.

I was advised on another forum to use the card in preference to the Cybook itself, so that's what I've done. I didn't think of the disadvantages like using up the battery. Is it likely to be significant drain?

Regards, Alex

JSWolf · 07-10-2008, 11:08 PM

With a new Gen3 with 512meg, I can see no advantage to storing on an SD care vs. internal memory.

And to run an SD card, it does take power to do so. So, yes using a SD card with a Gen3 will decreased the battery life between charges. How much, I cannot say. But given that the newest firmware has less battery life then 583, I'd not want to lose any more with an SD card that you don't actually need.

HarryT · 07-11-2008, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basschick

assuming that you also store your books on your computer, did the folks on the other forum mention why they felt it was an advantage to store your books on the card rather than the cybook?

The only benefit that occurs to me is that if you're writing to the SD card rather than internal memory, you're less likely to corrupt the internal disk and get an unbootable machine.

AlexBell · 07-11-2008, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basschick

assuming that you also store your books on your computer, did the folks on the other forum mention why they felt it was an advantage to store your books on the card rather than the cybook?

The respondent didn't actually say why, but advised me to use a card reader rather than go through the Cybook to install new ebook files. And it does seem to be faster.

Regards, Alex

AlexBell · 07-11-2008, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basschick

just curious - do you need to use the card already? i have a couple hundreds books on my cybook without a card and it's not even a quarter full.

How on earth do you cope with finding books? So far as I know the only options are to display books names 5, 10, or 20 per screen, and the books must be in alphabetical order by title.

I'd love to be able to display books by author then by title. Is there any way of doing that? I can do it with mobipocket reader on my computer, but not on the Cyook.

Regards, Alex

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07-08-2008, 09:15 PM	#16
Krystian Galaj Guru Posts: 820 Karma: 11012 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Warsaw, Poland Device: Bookeen Cybook	The symptoms you described look to me like something I was experiencing when I was trying to connect to XP through wrong USB slot. Not all of them are equal, though they may look the same. I changed the USB slot I was using, and all went fine from then on.

07-09-2008, 02:43 AM	#18
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	My experience has been that very often SD cards come with a file system that doesn't work at all reliably with the Gen3. From your Windows machine, right click on the "SD Card" drive that mounts from the Gen3, select "Format", and reformat the card as FAT32. Then turn off the Gen3, take the card out, turn the Gen3 back on, and put the card back in. The Gen3 will recreate the required folders on the card and operation should (hopefully) be trouble-free from then on.

07-09-2008, 06:16 AM	#19
AlexBell Wizard Posts: 3,413 Karma: 13369310 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Launceston, Tasmania Device: Sony PRS T3, Kobo Glo, Kindle Touch, iPad, Samsung SB 2 tablet	Thanks to you all. I don't see a format option when I right click on the card. But part of my problem may be that until now I have inserted the card in the Cybook before connecting it. I'll try Harry's advice and connect the Cybook to the computer and then insert the card into the Cybook to see if a format option appears when I right click on it. Failing that I'll look at getting a reader. I have already tried another USB slot on my Thinkpad, and it does seem more reliable than the one I first tried. Regards, Alex

07-10-2008, 04:12 AM	#20
basschick Wizard Posts: 1,096 Karma: 4695691 Join Date: May 2008 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	just curious - do you need to use the card already? i have a couple hundreds books on my cybook without a card and it's not even a quarter full.

07-10-2008, 06:38 AM	#21
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,756 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	if you have the new version of the gen3, it has enough internal memory to hold enough books to keep you going for a good while. All the SD card would do in that case is eat the battery.

07-10-2008, 07:52 AM	#22
AlexBell Wizard Posts: 3,413 Karma: 13369310 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Launceston, Tasmania Device: Sony PRS T3, Kobo Glo, Kindle Touch, iPad, Samsung SB 2 tablet	Thanks again to all. I've worked out a way to format the card to FAT32, and all seems to be well. I was advised on another forum to use the card in preference to the Cybook itself, so that's what I've done. I didn't think of the disadvantages like using up the battery. Is it likely to be significant drain? Regards, Alex

07-10-2008, 08:00 AM	#23
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Not really significant, no. If, like me, you keep your Gen3 fully charged by connecting it to the PC for a few minutes a day it's really not an issue. If you want to keep it permanently "on" and maximise battery life, you'll probably get a few hours more life if you don't use a card. No big deal either way.

07-10-2008, 11:08 PM	#27
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,756 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	With a new Gen3 with 512meg, I can see no advantage to storing on an SD care vs. internal memory. And to run an SD card, it does take power to do so. So, yes using a SD card with a Gen3 will decreased the battery life between charges. How much, I cannot say. But given that the newest firmware has less battery life then 583, I'd not want to lose any more with an SD card that you don't actually need.