Scribblings - Page 20

slayda · 07-08-2008, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Then you haven't backed up far enough. Back up .... keep going .... further .... Ooops, watch out for that cliff!!

Thanks, going over the cliff helped. Just before I lost sight if the picture, I saw the woman.

Good work badgoodDeb, you must be an art appreciation instructor.

pshrynk · 07-09-2008, 08:53 AM

Taylor: Did you do that with a high contrast photo, or did you look at a regular photo and just draw the shadowed spaces? Not sure if that asks the right question. What did you start out with and how did you "see" the original in order to do your translation?

Taylor514ce · 07-09-2008, 09:12 AM

In this particular case, I didn't work from a photo. It was a "high-contrast day", for sure. I sketched her in graphite, just quick shapes, shadows and lines. Then later at home, I used india ink pen over the sketch, erasing the pencil lines or covering them in ink. That's the point at which things become a bit "stylized", for lack of a better word.

Some of the drawings I've done from photos, and simply display them on-screen while I sketch. I do try to find or create photos with the proper lighting, side-lighting or angled from the front to "wash" the subject in a lot of light and create shadows.

These are subjective, in choosing how deeply to draw the negative space. Photos aren't binary, white and black. Lots of intermediate shades and colors. Which of those do I draw, or not? Sometimes I've "messed up" and so had to commit to an aggressive amount of black, and ended up with the pics that Zelda likes the best, all black with just a little white here and there.

In the case of boot-girl, I did "pose" her a bit, asking her to tuck her heel in, put a hand on her hat, etc.

pshrynk · 07-09-2008, 09:14 AM

Wow. Direct from life high contrast sketching. I'd love to look inside your brain someday.

Taylor514ce · 07-09-2008, 09:19 AM

VR, thanks! Other subjects? Probably not anytime soon. I draw what interests me, and keeps me interested in drawing. What's interesting is that while drawing one is intensely involved in a detailed, intimate examination of the subject, this intimacy isn't sexual. I'm not staring at a girl's breast... I'm seeing the shadows and volumes. Only when it's DONE does it turn back into an image of an attractive woman. Or boot. Quelle surprise!

Taylor514ce · 07-09-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

Wow. Direct from life high contrast sketching. I'd love to look inside your brain someday.

Actually, I think for me this type of drawing is a form of laziness. It's HARD to draw "accurately", with the proper shading, and mentally mapping colors to grays and grays to shades of grays... so much easier to mentally say "everything maps to black or white". Then the only "artistic judgment" is in deciding where to draw that line, so to speak.

Plus my shading technique isn't refined... the gradations aren't smooth, it still looks like I rubbed a pencil back and forth, because that's exactly what I did. Rather than work to improve, I give up and get out the nice fat black pen and cover it all up.

I am after all a programmer. Everything is binary, even pretty girls.

zelda_pinwheel · 07-09-2008, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor514ce

I am after all a programmer. Everything is binary, even pretty girls.

so i guess you are the 1 of those 10 types of people in the world*...

(*you know : those who understand binary, and those who don't.)

badgoodDeb · 07-09-2008, 01:51 PM

So ..... taylor's drawing is a little like this pose?? Only, maybe, mirror imaged. And a few more changes.

Taylor514ce · 07-10-2008, 10:00 AM

Here's a picture of an old-fashioned cash register:

pshrynk · 07-10-2008, 10:02 AM

I wash going to just say "Heh!" but the forum software won't let me.

zelda_pinwheel · 07-10-2008, 10:03 AM

you could say "heh !!"

slayda · 07-10-2008, 10:22 AM

That one doesn't look like a boot to me! But not binary. Looks like 4 shades.

zelda_pinwheel · 07-10-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slayda

That one doesn't look like a boot to me!

i should hope not ! he clearly said it's a cash register.

montsnmags · 07-10-2008, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor514ce

Here's a picture of an old-fashioned cash register:

Mate, they don't build cash registers the way they used to, do they? Did this one have a place to swipe your card?

(...which is my way of saying, "That's a bloody good one, Taylor!" (headlights on and all)).

Cheers,
Marc

zelda_pinwheel · 07-10-2008, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montsnmags

Mate, they don't build cash registers the way they used to, do they? Did this one have a place to swipe your card?

(...which is my way of saying, "That's a bloody good one, Taylor!" (headlights on and all)).

Cheers,
Marc

can't wait to see what he replies to *that*...

07-09-2008, 09:12 AM	#288
Taylor514ce Actively passive. Posts: 2,042 Karma: 478376 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: US Device: Sony PRS-505/LC	In this particular case, I didn't work from a photo. It was a "high-contrast day", for sure. I sketched her in graphite, just quick shapes, shadows and lines. Then later at home, I used india ink pen over the sketch, erasing the pencil lines or covering them in ink. That's the point at which things become a bit "stylized", for lack of a better word. Some of the drawings I've done from photos, and simply display them on-screen while I sketch. I do try to find or create photos with the proper lighting, side-lighting or angled from the front to "wash" the subject in a lot of light and create shadows. These are subjective, in choosing how deeply to draw the negative space. Photos aren't binary, white and black. Lots of intermediate shades and colors. Which of those do I draw, or not? Sometimes I've "messed up" and so had to commit to an aggressive amount of black, and ended up with the pics that Zelda likes the best, all black with just a little white here and there. In the case of boot-girl, I did "pose" her a bit, asking her to tuck her heel in, put a hand on her hat, etc. Last edited by Taylor514ce; 07-09-2008 at 09:14 AM.

07-09-2008, 01:51 PM	#293
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,551 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	So ..... taylor's drawing is a little like this pose?? Only, maybe, mirror imaged. And a few more changes. Attached Images

07-10-2008, 10:22 AM	#297
slayda Retired & reading more! Posts: 2,764 Karma: 1884247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Alabama, USA Device: Kindle 1, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6S+, Kobo Aura One	That one doesn't look like a boot to me! But not binary. Looks like 4 shades. Last edited by slayda; 07-10-2008 at 10:25 AM.

07-09-2008, 08:53 AM	#287
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Taylor: Did you do that with a high contrast photo, or did you look at a regular photo and just draw the shadowed spaces? Not sure if that asks the right question. What did you start out with and how did you "see" the original in order to do your translation?

07-09-2008, 09:14 AM	#289
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Wow. Direct from life high contrast sketching. I'd love to look inside your brain someday.

07-09-2008, 09:19 AM	#290
Taylor514ce Actively passive. Posts: 2,042 Karma: 478376 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: US Device: Sony PRS-505/LC	VR, thanks! Other subjects? Probably not anytime soon. I draw what interests me, and keeps me interested in drawing. What's interesting is that while drawing one is intensely involved in a detailed, intimate examination of the subject, this intimacy isn't sexual. I'm not staring at a girl's breast... I'm seeing the shadows and volumes. Only when it's DONE does it turn back into an image of an attractive woman. Or boot. Quelle surprise!

07-10-2008, 10:00 AM	#294
Taylor514ce Actively passive. Posts: 2,042 Karma: 478376 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: US Device: Sony PRS-505/LC	Here's a picture of an old-fashioned cash register:

07-10-2008, 10:02 AM	#295
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	I wash going to just say "Heh!" but the forum software won't let me.

07-10-2008, 10:03 AM	#296
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	you could say "heh !!"