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Old 06-07-2012, 11:16 PM   #196
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Feedback re Redshirts - not available in ebook version in Aus yet through:

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Borders (Sony's recommended bookstore as Sony doesn't have an Aus ebook store)

Amazon

Will keep an eye on it and see what the DRM status is once released here.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:30 PM   #197
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If you want to know what Parliament intended, you should read the Copyright Amendment Act 2006 Explanatory Memorandum (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/c...23/memo_0.html).

Of most interest are pages 98-100 (Part 2--Reproducing copyright material in a different format for private use) and pages 210-1 (the sub-s 116AN(3) interoperability exception).

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Thanks JL.

I'm still reading that it's okay to delete DRM for personal use in order to read the material on an available format, so to speak.

Am I reading inconsistently with the intention?



PS Do you work in the field of copyright?. Although I note you are currently an expat
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:31 PM   #198
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Feedback re Redshirts - not available in ebook version in Aus yet through:

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Borders (Sony's recommended bookstore as Sony doesn't have an Aus ebook store)

Amazon

Will keep an eye on it and see what the DRM status is once released here.
Tor is only publishing it in the US and Canada. He has a different publisher in the US and no direct publisher in Australia/New Zealand

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/06/0...e-release-faq/
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:44 PM   #199
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Tor is only publishing it in the US and Canada. He has a different publisher in the US and no direct publisher in Australia/New Zealand

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/06/0...e-release-faq/

Thanks AnemicOak.

I looked at Scalzi's Whatever site and see what you mean.

I've not read any of his books before, but I see that there are a number of his titles available in different formats in Aus.

This is what Amazon (Aus ip detection) says:

Redshirts by John Scalzi (Nov 15, 2012)
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Kindle Edition Available for Pre-order. This item will be released on November 15, 2012. $16.91
Audible Audio Edition Available at Audible.com $17.95
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:06 AM   #200
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Thanks AnemicOak.

I looked at Scalzi's Whatever site and see what you mean.

I've not read any of his books before, but I see that there are a number of his titles available in different formats in Aus.

This is what Amazon (Aus ip detection) says:

Redshirts by John Scalzi (Nov 15, 2012)
(33)
Formats Price
Kindle Edition Available for Pre-order. This item will be released on November 15, 2012. $16.91
Audible Audio Edition Available at Audible.com $17.95
Same date as the UK release so a fair chance it's the UK publisher who ended up with Aussie rights.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:16 AM   #201
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Because then Macmillan gets a better sense of how many people were screwed over by vendor failure to comply with their wishes. Also, it costs them extra work, so they will lean on vendors extra-hard to get it right next time.

It's your only real way of saying "hey, they messed up on this one, too--and I'm someone who cares about this."
I sent my receipt to Tor for the DRM-free file. Let you know when it arrives.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:16 AM   #202
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Same date as the UK release so a fair chance it's the UK publisher who ended up with Aussie rights.
Sounds that way. Kindle book is £7.99 pre-order on Amazon UK.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:23 AM   #203
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BTW, Redshirts is in and of itself a good read. My review here.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:40 AM   #204
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I sent my receipt to Tor for the DRM-free file. Let you know when it arrives.
Got it! Wow, that was fast!
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:14 AM   #205
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Back to the Tor.com announcement ( the legality of DRM cracking is a worthy topic, but I'd prefer it be discussed on its own thread, since there is no one-click answer).

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Now Tom Doherty Associates is pleased to announce the impending debut of the Tor/Forge DRM-Free E-book Store, which will sell all Tor, Forge, Starscape, Tor Teen, and Orb e-book titles directly to readers—along with, eventually, offerings from other publishers as well.
Tor.com seems to want to be more than just a Tor only, or even a Macmillan only store-it wants offerings from other publishers too. Does this seem realistic or desireable?
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Back to the Tor.com announcement ( the legality of DRM cracking is a worthy topic, but I'd prefer it be discussed on its own thread, since there is no one-click answer).
OK...and there's no shortage of those threads already.

Anyway, I'm interested in reading Redshirts...or rather listening to it.
What are the chances that Scalzi's wishes had any weight with Audible? Do you think the offer to provide a DRM free version will extend to the audio book?

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OK...and there's no shortage of those threads already.

Anyway, I'm interested in reading Redshirts...or rather listening to it.
What are the chances that Scalzi's wishes had any weight with Audible? Do you think the offer to provide a DRM free version will extend to the audio book?
Does Audible even have a mechanism in place to offer books without DRM? I don't think I've ever seen/heard of one.
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Does Audible even have a mechanism in place to offer books without DRM? I don't think I've ever seen/heard of one.
Not sure. Possibly, but I just sent a note to the redshirtsdrm email address, where you are supposed to send your receipt if you get a DRMed ebook so they can send you a non-DRM version, and asked if the offer applies to the audiobook as well.

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Old 06-08-2012, 10:35 AM   #209
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Not sure. Possibly, but I just sent a note to the redshirtsdrm email address, where you are supposed to send your receipt if you get a DRMed ebook so they can send you a non-DRM version, and asked if the offer applies to the audiobook as well.
Will be interested to hear their reply. The audio is published by Audible Frontiers though not Tor so they may not have an answer (might have to ask Scalzi).
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Will be interested to hear their reply. The audio is published by Audible Frontiers though not Tor so they may not have an answer (might have to ask Scalzi).
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The DRM free status is only for the ebook version of the title.

Very best,
The Macmillan ebook team
I posted a comment on the author's blog about it.
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