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That would be a very sloppy judge that lets that happen. The opinions from the judge so far don't look all that sloppy. But hey, let's wait and see. A year ago everybody was sure the DOJ would *never* sue because, after all, SCOTUS found Agency Pricing to be legal. (For *one* company.) We'll all place our metaphorical bets and we'll watch the trial. When all is said and done, some will be cheering and some will be disappointed. And then we'll move to the next "fiery debate". ![]() Last edited by fjtorres; 06-07-2012 at 08:52 PM. |
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The judge can't control it. She won't be present during jury deliberations.
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E-books last year accounted for 20.2 percent of all books sold in the U.S., up from 7.3 percent in 2010, according to Bowker Market Research. But that mass adoption of the digital word is still far off in one of Europe’s most-literate nations, Germany, where e-books account for only 1 percent of all book sales, according to a report published last month by the market research firm GdK. The rest of Europe tends to be closer to Germany than the US here. Now, maybe Amazon will stumble. But if publishers were to take the attitude sometimes seen in this thread, of equating Amazon with Borders, and assuming Amazon will similarly fail to gain market control, they really would be living in the past. Quote:
It's highly likely that, as the publishers say, when the executives of the various companies spoke to each other, they were acting under advice of counsel. They were probably trying to step right up to the line without going over. This year, whether Apple and the publishers went over the line is the issue. If they get a big enough market share, Amazon's turn will come. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 06-07-2012 at 09:35 PM. |
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This, a thousand times this. The publishers either colluded or they didn't; it makes no difference to the legal question of whether or not they acted illegally if they only did it because they were just protecting those poor, poor consumers from mean ol' Amazon.
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Actually in accounting terms they are. The phrases you seem to be searching for are "Gross profit", for income after Cost of sales but before operating expenses, or "Income from operations" for before tax income and "Net Income" for after tax income. However Sales = Revenue.
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It still doesn't prove the argument that Amazon will gain a stranglehold on the market and promptly demand to sell penny dreadfuls at $20 a pop. |
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Yes, that is correct. But the reason given for the drop is that agency pricing allowed sellers like B&N to compete. No bookseller whose primary revenue was reliant on selling ebooks was able to compete with Amazon and few tried. Agency pricing ensured that Amazon could no longer sell at below cost. It is worth reading B&N's opposition to the DOJ settlement agreement.
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If you look at the charts included in B&N's reply to the DOJ settlement proposal, you will see that pricing for hardcovers has dropped since agency pricing. The pricing comparison is limited to the Agency 5 books.
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Amazon focuses on keeping the customer happy builds the market dominance (not monopoly) and then uses that market dominance to squeeze the supply chain. That's what the author's guild and publishers are afraid of. The fear mongering about them building a monopoly and extorting customers is just a smoke screen and people don't believe it. Amazon has been building a strong negotiating power because of their market dominance and they will use it. The authors and publishers have something to fear but it is just negotiations. If Amazon wields the club too strong they will end up with nothing to sell. The publishers have had the big club for centuries and now they're not happy about someone else having a big club. It's business. |
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