06-03-2012, 01:39 AM | #31 | |
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Haven't tried Phatpad, I bought Writepad when he had no other products and haven't felt the need to get anything else. It looks decent, depends on your needs, I guess. The writing recognition engine would be the same. |
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06-03-2012, 02:19 AM | #32 |
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I already have the French dictionary, and it's not working properly. The words are there, but the recognition engine works very badly. Part of it could be improved by a long training period on my part, but other things I don't see improving. I spent several minutes trying to get it to recognize a very common hyphenated word. I even added it to the user dictionary. Nothing works, it still thinks it's two words instead of one. The best I was able to obtain was the two words with the hyphen attached to the first one and a space between the two. So I'd have to go back and delete the space, which is not easy to do.
I bought the app called writenote, not writenote French, maybe that's why. Writenote French has much better ratings on the app store. Maybe each version of the app (English, French, German...) is optimized for one language only. Since I bought Writenote with no language specified, I got the US English one. But if that's the case, it would mean that I'd need to buy two apps if I want to write both in English and French, and the language packs are a lie. You pay 2.39€ and get something that doesn't work anyway. They really need to rethink how they sell this app, and explain it clearly in the store. |
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OK folks, here's some great news for those who use Noteshelf. As I mentioned before, I really love this app. I love the way it organizes notes, I love the way you can use various different covers for each notebook, and I love the fluid writing style produced when you put stylus (or finger) to screen. The only thing I don't like—and I really want this feature—is its lack of handwriting recognition. So I wrote to the company, and here's what I said:
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I've mentioned that I really love the way WritePad converts text, but if Noteshelf can come up with a conversion engine to match it (especially if it converts on-the-fly the way WritePad does), then I'll probably go back to Noteshelf. I do miss the way it is organized, with the bookshelf and the attractive covers. Last edited by WT Sharpe; 06-03-2012 at 09:05 AM. Reason: Add the words, "it's lack of" for clarification. |
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That's good news, it shows that Noteshelf's developer are working on improving it. I just hope it stays as stable and easy to use as it is now.
I took kiteflyers's advice and wrote to phatware about writepad. If they give me a way to make it work both in French and English I won't ask for a refund. We'll see. Last edited by FlorenceArt; 06-04-2012 at 03:49 AM. |
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I looked at PhatPad, and it appears a bit bloated for my needs.
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I think phatpad would be something of an equivalent of noteshelf, but I doubt I would like it better than noteshelf, plus if the handwriting recognition engine is the same as writepad, it won't work for me.
Just got a rather disheartening reply from phatware. They seem to think I am having problems because I didn't select French as my main language and am trying to handle French writing with an English recognition engine. Which I am not, I selected French as my main language. So if this is the best they can suggest, I suppose it means French handwriting recognition simply does not work, or not good enough for me (OK, I might be a bit of a perfectionist, I'll admit it). So I guess I will try to get a refund. As a matter of principle, I really don't want to buy the additional English pack (which will probably work better) simply because I selected French the first time and French doesn't work. Plus it would only cover half my needs, for more than 10 euros total cost. Last edited by FlorenceArt; 06-04-2012 at 03:47 AM. |
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WritePad update: I found out by accident that I could change the language, simply by deleting the app and reinstalling it. It asked me for my main language again and I selected US English. And it still doesn't work for me. I suppose the problem is not the language, it's the handwriting. The app is optimized for American handwriting, mine is obviously too exotic for it. Here's a screenshot to prove it.
I asked for a refund on the iTunes store but I am not very hopeful of getting it, so I may be stuck with this app anyway. Oh well, it's only 8 euros after all. ETA: LOL, I had cropped the screenshot on the iPad but it didn't really crop the image and I uploaded it whole. Now you can see all the nonsense I wrote. Or tried to write. |
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I think it might have had a shot if you actually crossed the t in the first place. Maybe it can help you improve your writing skills
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Americanize it you mean. No thank you
Actually I think the app is learning to interpret my handwriting. And probably I am adapting it a little too. The progress is quite impressive. Yesterday I was unable to complete a decent-sized sentence, this morning I wrote a small paragraph. There are still errors, but at this stage the number of errors seems to be about the same as when I write with the iOS keyboard. Maybe slightly higher still, but hopefully it will keep improving. |
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It amazes me how such an inexpensive app has such impressive capabilities. You may also benefit from frequent reference to the help file, especially the section titled "gestures". For example; you may have noticed how difficult it is to insert punctuation marks after a word has already been written. A small down, then up stroke brings up the punctuation keyboard, which promptly vanishes after you make your selection. Very handy.
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I guess handwriting recognition is not for me. I was curious and made a little experiment: I typed/wrote the same text in several apps to see which was fastest for me. The sample text was a paragraph, in English, of about 570 characters. The time it took me to write it in my different apps was:
Notebooks 3'45 iA Writer 3'05 Knowtes 2'45 (The differences between these times are not really significant, I was typing the same text every time and typed faster as I was repeating it. After completing the test I made another try with notebooks and the time was 2'40). Noteshelf: 4'16 (I was cheating a little here since when I made a mistake, instead of canceling or erasing, I just stroked through the word and wrote it again). WritePad: 7'57 (and I left several mistakes, as it was just too much work going back to correct them). I think that's it for WritePad. And for handwriting recognition, since even without wasting time on the recognition, I type faster than I write. Writepad would probably be less frustrating if I had an American handwriting, but still less efficient than the iPad's keyboard with a good note taking app (Notebooks remains my favorite so far). And now I'll stop bothering you with my complaining. Last edited by FlorenceArt; 06-09-2012 at 01:54 PM. |
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That's too bad. I'm still having a blast with the handwriting recognition. Even sent off an email yesterday written in WritePad. Maybe as you suggested earlier it has something to do with its difficulty in recognizing the handwriting style of a native French writer.
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