Corning Willow Glass will change everything

Dulin's Books · 06-04-2012, 10:43 AM

If this turns out to be as robust and easy to use as they suggest then waiting for cost effective yields with plastic substrate will end.

being able to go roll to roll for eink and oled displays with glass does away with a fair number of the issues faced when try to use plastics. if the radius of fold/roll is small enough the folding tablet device that has a large display but fits in your pants pocket will be reality

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/c...w-glass-video/

Sil_liS · 06-04-2012, 11:00 AM

I wonder how long it would take for this to be implemented.

Penforhire · 06-04-2012, 12:15 PM

Price isn't mentioned. The press release says "Currently manufacturing in a sheet-to-sheet process, ..." I'm going to take a wild guess and say price is going to be the biggest delay. 100 microns is wickedly thin, like a slightly thicker sheet of Mylar (typ. 75-odd microns).

Kumabjorn · 06-04-2012, 03:10 PM

If productions speed outpaces sheet-to-sheet methods it shouls yield lower prices, not immediately but after a while. I'm sure other glass producers are working along the same lines.

If it is that thin, wouldn't a scratch from a knife open a hole down to the underlying substrate?

Penforhire · 06-04-2012, 05:09 PM

It is not clear how hard this glass is. If I read the link right it was Engadget who said, "...it doesn't give up its patented Corning toughness," which doesn't really mean anything.

If it is anything like Gorilla Glass in hardness it won't cut or scratch easily. Today's high-end phone surfaces are pretty amazing (until you drop one). But they are advertising this as flexible and still capable of high temperature processing (for electronic fabrication). We'll see. If it is flexible but still fragile it may require a protective cover for some applications.

It would still be an improvement if an inexpensive glass cover layer breaks when you drop your e-reader rather than the E-ink glass electronic substrate.

pdurrant · 06-04-2012, 06:20 PM

Flexible and scratch resistant is great. But does it shatter when shocked?

It will be interesting to compare eInk screens using this as a substrate to ones with a plastic substrate. When they eventually appear.

Fluribus · 06-04-2012, 09:55 PM

With a willow willow waley I will read upon it gaily whilst quaffing from the chalice from the palace...or was that the vessel with the pestle.

Kali Yuga · 06-04-2012, 10:23 PM

I heard that Pixel Qi, Mirasol and color eInk will change everything, too.

Canuck_in_Japan · 06-05-2012, 12:04 AM

How will this change everything exactly? Assuming I don't want to roll up my book of course. I'd much rather have a screen that came with no screen flash.

Kumabjorn · 06-05-2012, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

How will this change everything exactly? Assuming I don't want to roll up my book of course. I'd much rather have a screen that came with no screen flash.

Imagine a phone or eReader with a lid that you open up and, voilà, you have twice the screen size.

tubemonkey · 06-05-2012, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

Imagine a phone or eReader with a lid that you open up and, voilà, you have twice the screen size.

Also, imagine an ereader whose display doesn't break when knocked off a student's desk in a classroom.

kennyc · 06-05-2012, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Also, imagine an ereader whose display doesn't break when knocked off a student's desk in a classroom.

and one that's monkey-proof. BONUS!

tubemonkey · 06-05-2012, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennyc

and one that's monkey-proof. BONUS!

Rob Lister · 06-05-2012, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penforhire

It is not clear how hard this glass is. If I read the link right it was Engadget who said, "...it doesn't give up its patented Corning toughness," which doesn't really mean anything.

If it is anything like Gorilla Glass in hardness it won't cut or scratch easily. Today's high-end phone surfaces are pretty amazing (until you drop one). But they are advertising this as flexible and still capable of high temperature processing (for electronic fabrication). We'll see. If it is flexible but still fragile it may require a protective cover for some applications.

It would still be an improvement if an inexpensive glass cover layer breaks when you drop your e-reader rather than the E-ink glass electronic substrate.

This needs to be quoted and repeated. Gorilla Glass is the new clear.

Here's the HTC with Gorilla Glass.

Yet I've seen reports that if you drop it, it might well shatter.

kennyc · 06-05-2012, 10:32 AM

Who needs a hammer now!

06-04-2012, 10:43 AM	#1
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	Corning Willow Glass will change everything If this turns out to be as robust and easy to use as they suggest then waiting for cost effective yields with plastic substrate will end. being able to go roll to roll for eink and oled displays with glass does away with a fair number of the issues faced when try to use plastics. if the radius of fold/roll is small enough the folding tablet device that has a large display but fits in your pants pocket will be reality http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/c...w-glass-video/

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Sil_liS Wizard Posts: 4,896 Karma: 33602910 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: PocketBook 903 & 360+	I wonder how long it would take for this to be implemented.

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Penforhire Wizard Posts: 2,230 Karma: 7145404 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Device: Kindle Voyage & iPhone 7+	Price isn't mentioned. The press release says "Currently manufacturing in a sheet-to-sheet process, ..." I'm going to take a wild guess and say price is going to be the biggest delay. 100 microns is wickedly thin, like a slightly thicker sheet of Mylar (typ. 75-odd microns).

06-04-2012, 03:10 PM	#4
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	If productions speed outpaces sheet-to-sheet methods it shouls yield lower prices, not immediately but after a while. I'm sure other glass producers are working along the same lines. If it is that thin, wouldn't a scratch from a knife open a hole down to the underlying substrate?

06-04-2012, 05:09 PM	#5
Penforhire Wizard Posts: 2,230 Karma: 7145404 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Device: Kindle Voyage & iPhone 7+	It is not clear how hard this glass is. If I read the link right it was Engadget who said, "...it doesn't give up its patented Corning toughness," which doesn't really mean anything. If it is anything like Gorilla Glass in hardness it won't cut or scratch easily. Today's high-end phone surfaces are pretty amazing (until you drop one). But they are advertising this as flexible and still capable of high temperature processing (for electronic fabrication). We'll see. If it is flexible but still fragile it may require a protective cover for some applications. It would still be an improvement if an inexpensive glass cover layer breaks when you drop your e-reader rather than the E-ink glass electronic substrate.

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pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 74,432 Karma: 318076944 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	Flexible and scratch resistant is great. But does it shatter when shocked? It will be interesting to compare eInk screens using this as a substrate to ones with a plastic substrate. When they eventually appear.

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