|  05-27-2012, 10:24 AM | #1 | 
| Banned            Posts: 1,687 Karma: 4368191 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Oregon Device: Kindle3 | 
				
				What is piracy?
			 
			
			Hello there! Is simply copying a book for personal use piracy? Or does piracy require commercial gain? For instance, if I find a decent book in the free bin at a used bookstore and then scan it into my ereader, is that piracy? Would it be piracy if I were to scan the printed book into my ereader non-destructively and then return the printed book to the free bin? Would an act of piracy occur if I were to take the scanned ebook I obtained from the free bin and upload it to a free ebook distribution site? Have a nice day! | 
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|  05-27-2012, 10:45 AM | #2 | |
| Addict            Posts: 387 Karma: 3553492 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Perth Western Australia Device: kindle oasis | Quote: 
 the first I would ignore the second a bit grey, I wouldnt do but doubt I would look down on somebody else for doing it the last one is out and out piracy and I wouldnt do it or agree with anybody doing it. But as I said by the letter of the law each is as evil as the other. applesauce | |
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|  05-27-2012, 10:52 AM | #3 | 
| Illiterate newbie            Posts: 661 Karma: 1702090 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Finland Device: Sony PRS-T1 | 
			
			Depends on where you live. Atleast in Finland you are allowed to make a few copies to your close relatives and friends. Unless you are circumventing "strong" copyprotection, altough no one has an idea what this strong copy protection is. Copying material to personal use from legimitate source as in legal copy shouldn't be an issue. Copying from illegal source might be, but usual isn't enforced such as Internet. Distribution or making work available is the real piracy, if it's copyrighted and you don't have rights to do it. This is the one also enforced. | 
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|  05-27-2012, 12:12 PM | #4 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,470 Karma: 44114178 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: near Philadelphia USA Device: Kindle Kids Edition, Fire HD 10 (11th generation) | 
			
			Somebody is financing that supposedly free ebook distribution site, and at some point in the chain they are seeking commercial gain.
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|  05-27-2012, 02:56 PM | #5 | |
| .~^пиратка^~.            Posts: 238 Karma: 14000 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ask NSA... Device: Onyx Boox M92 | Quote: 
 A concept invented by greedy copyright owners. Power is knowledge and it should be free. Sharing is caring. | |
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|  05-27-2012, 06:10 PM | #6 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 3,117 Karma: 9269999 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: UK Device: Sony- T3, PRS650, 350, T1/2/3, Paperwhite, Fire 8.9,Samsung Tab S 10.5 |   Quote: 
 And daring to want to earn something from their work....... Without these "greedy" (and artistic, a lot of the time) types, you wouldn't have anything to read.......  2) Are we talking about, say, an SF fantasy epic series, crime novel, children's book, Zombie apoc tome, here, being the power or the knowledge ? 3) I can think of quite a few instances where sharing might not necessarily be very caring, a lot of the unsuitable for a mention on a family forum like what this is (!). But perhaps "sharing" the floor plans of the Pentagon, or our Houses of Parliament, with the Taliban might fall a little short of the right sort of "caring" ? | |
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|  05-27-2012, 06:39 PM | #7 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,698 Karma: 4748723 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Paperwhite | 
			
			Post deleted. I decided not to get drawn into this .... discussion again.
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|  05-27-2012, 06:46 PM | #8 | 
| Groupie            Posts: 150 Karma: 1215642 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Utah Device: iriver Story HD, Android | 
			
			Something to do with violently seizing ships and cargo, IIRC.
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|  05-27-2012, 07:12 PM | #9 | |
| e-reading since 2008            Posts: 197 Karma: 112730 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hinesville Georgia Device: Nook STR, Sony PRS-T1 | Quote: 
 Submitting an ebook to a distribution site may well qualify as piracy, depending on its copyright status and any notices about rights to distribution. I think it is safe to submit a copy of "Alice in Wonderland" to any distribution site you want, as long as your copy does not have copywrited addendums or annotations in it. Submission of a free ebook obtained from Kindle might be an offense if the copyright is still in effect. Vic | |
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|  05-27-2012, 07:14 PM | #10 | 
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|  05-27-2012, 07:23 PM | #11 | 
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|  05-27-2012, 07:41 PM | #12 | 
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|  05-27-2012, 08:27 PM | #13 | 
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|  05-27-2012, 08:30 PM | #14 | 
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|  05-27-2012, 10:52 PM | #15 | 
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