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[koland]

Originally Posted by kaleissin

Huh. The new scaled gifts are so big there's little use in surging some things anymore.

That assumes you get some of them. some of us are getting nor more than one every day or so (and often just bliss, which is only slightly more useless than bucks).

[kaleissin]

Originally Posted by koland

That assumes you get some of them. some of us are getting nor more than one every day or so (and often just bliss, which is only slightly more useless than bucks).

I get about three a turn. Bliss and military, lately. I've got 100K military in my hoard now, hoarding it

I've never bothered moving from 40 Political Liberty 15 Economic Liberty 0 Moral Liberty. Leads to "Political Adj to Asset Bucks: +35%" I guess.

[theenframed]

I was doing fine until today. Now, I have dug myself a major hole!

Level 18
Baen Bucks: 15,924,140
Baen Bliss: 327,629
Population: 387,208
Food: 379,308
Energy: 3,834,457
Military: 166,929
Surge Pts Left this Cycle: 1/90
Total Bucks per Cycle: 6,978,422
from Assets: 1,437,993
from Pop.: 6,969,744
Political Adj to Asset Bucks: +62%
Baen Bliss - Base Need: -68,079
Low-Bliss Cost: -1,429,315
Energy - Base Need: -3,135,287
Low-Energy Bliss Cost: -45%
Food - Base Need: -7,900
Low Food Bliss Pct Penalty: -4%
Famine Population Loss: 0

[Elfwreck]

Heh. Surge one or two ansibles every cycle, food once should be enough, and energy until you catch up or get an energy gift. Good luck?

If you ask for bliss gifts you're likely to be flooded with them, and can mostly avoid surging to cover those costs. (but watch out for the 10-per-cycle limit; use the higher-value gifts first.)

[ATDrake]

I was wondering who to give all that Bliss to which the system loves to gift me, along with Pop which I never use either.

[theenframed]

Thanks for some Bliss, ATDrake.

I think a lot of my problems started when I increased my pop substantially (both on purpose and accidentally).

So I will gladly take Bliss gifts off anyone's hands for now. It seems that having a large supply of Bliss can be very helpful at the higher levels.

[Freeshadow]

I'm lev 20 now. Make 10 mil bucks per cycle haven't surged pop for aeons and start falling back with energy. It seems like trying to ally kills you because you spend the money needed for fast levelling on it. Without levelling ASAP your energy output becomes to weak even for natural population growth.

[plib]

Just joined, have 38 pages of thread to read, so it might be a while before I can emerge from whatever pit you start in. Game name is BrianBoru.

[travger]

Level 20 (end of the cycle):
Baen Bucks: 68,901,217
Baen Bliss: 728,362
Population: 531,464
Food: 773,187
Energy: 10,362,419
Military: 293,118
Surge Pts Left this Cycle: 0/100
Total Bucks per Cycle: 10,765,064
from Assets: 135,784
from Pop.: 10,629,280
Political Adj to Asset Bucks: -75%
Baen Bliss - Base Need: 187,398
Low-Bliss Cost: 0
Energy - Base Need: -266,861
Low-Energy Bliss Cost: -3%
Food - Base Need: 241,723
Low Food Bliss Pct Penalty: 0%
Famine Population Loss: 0

I used to be at +75, but just couldn't wait for the big supergifts. Felt so-oo-o left out. Few days ago after leveling up went and realigned (best time to lose some bliss). Cost me 20% bucks and 20% bliss. When I moved before only horizontally, it was 0 bucks, 20% bliss.

Now I have 3-6 biggies every cycle. And can you guess? only 1 (ONE) of them has been energy! But 2x200 K population!
Redeemed 60 K pop, it put my energy 1.3 million in the red. Climbing out of that has eaten through 2-3 superbliss gifts.
Had 200 K All gift, that's why food is so high (well, it contained energy too.

Few gifts more and I'll have million of military tucked away in the hoard, I dream about waiving it gleefully at the crows (one can at least dream, right?).

[DHNightshadow]

For all of you who are not on Baens Bar. They will do a big remodeling next week and there will be a reset in the near future.
When you are near a coupon don't wait to long for gettiing it.

[Freeshadow]

should you mean the "reset pending" thread, then the answer is no because it has been an rather misfortuned thread necromancy ressurrection - the message date says

Bob_Kruger wrote on Fri, 02 March 2012

however in the thread asking about the end of the beta:

Planet Baen's Facebook page says that a launch party is planned for June 15

[Freeshadow]

as far as squeezing the last books out goes:

268,435,456.00 Baen Bucks to join this alliance?

for the 29th ally

Cost to Level Up: 268,328,157 Baen Bucks

for the 21st level

[DHNightshadow]

Originally Posted by Freeshadow

should you mean the "reset pending" thread, then the answer is no because it has been an rather misfortuned thread necromancy ressurrection - the message date says


however in the thread asking about the end of the beta:

Yikes, you are right, sorry. Normally I look at the date.

[Freeshadow]

np I sorta panicked too
I just hope I can make it to the next ally and lev 25 before the big bang

[koland]

Originally Posted by travger

I used to be at +75, but just couldn't wait for the big supergifts. Felt so-oo-o left out. Few days ago after leveling up went and realigned (best time to lose some bliss). Cost me 20% bucks and 20% bliss. When I moved before only horizontally, it was 0 bucks, 20% bliss.

Now I have 3-6 biggies every cycle. And can you guess? only 1 (ONE) of them has been energy! But 2x200 K population!

I also have two of the 200K pop. can't use them, though (a 90K has put me under for days). I've only once received an Energy and that was before I was in the hole.

So, on the one that wasn't getting any gifts, anyway, I moved it to 50/50 (for +75%). I'm working on ally #29 in both.