05-08-2012, 07:53 PM | #1 |
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Independent File Sharing studies
Teleread has linked several studies undertaken by independent researchers (ie, those not affiliated with or funded by the MPAA and RIAA).
The results are very interesting and do paint a very different picture to what the MPAA/RIAA et al would have us believe. http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/g...rom-zero-paid/ |
05-09-2012, 07:44 AM | #2 |
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The public doesn't like fact, they like fiction.
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05-09-2012, 08:32 AM | #3 |
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Interesting. I personally object to using the term "file sharing" for what I consider criminal activity but whatever. I also have no doubt that the conclusions of the studies are likely more correct than the information pushed by the corporations and corporate funded groups like MPAA and RIAA.
My belief is that there is a "happy medium" somewhere in the middle that allows consumers to purchase products at a fair price and to own and use them in the way they see fit. The idea of the corporations controlling what I can and cannot do with a product I purchase is way past time for it to be history, like old fish, it's beginning to stink. |
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05-09-2012, 10:29 AM | #6 |
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More likely the fiction that pirates don't buy anything, ever, and that every download is a lost sale at full price.
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05-09-2012, 10:41 AM | #7 |
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Not every illegal download is a lost sale, but plainly some proportion of them do indeed represent lost sales. The problem is that it's impossible to say what that percentage is. It's almost certainly not 0%, and neither is it 100%; it lies somewhere in between ("the most obvious statement of the week", I know!).
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But, just because someone downloads something they would never have paid for doesn't mean that otherwise they would not have paid for something else. So while the copy of Photoshop of not a lost sale, maybe a copy of Paint Shop Pro is a lost sale.
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These studies still rely on the honesty of the survey participants. Therefore, also flawed.
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05-09-2012, 11:13 AM | #10 |
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Downloading copyrighted material is not illegal everywhere. Uploading is sharing, and does as much damage as giving a newspaper that you bought and read to someone else.
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Well, I'm glad we have moved to independent academic studies about whether piracy causes harm . ( File sharing is a euphemism, similar to "ehnic cleansing" as a euphemism for "genocide") . But there are a lot of academic independent studies now. Whats the consensus?
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Teleread and the MPIAA can cherry pick the studies that they like . But overall, a large majority of independent studies now conclude that onlinne piracy causes harm. What do the courts say? Quote:
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You're not giving "a newspaper"; you're making an unlimited number of copies of your newspaper and giving them ALL away.
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Oh good, I can see this thread is already on the verge of descending into the usual "copyright infringement is not stealing", "yes it is", "no it's not..." argument. Perhaps a modest proposal is in order to avoid that messiness: Given Stonetools' comments above, instead of using the terms "stealing", "file sharing" or "copyright infringement", can we simply use "genocide" to describe the practice of downloading a file without colour of right? Last edited by Ninjalawyer; 05-09-2012 at 12:03 PM. |