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Old 06-15-2008, 08:47 AM   #346
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Where in TOR can I get the Mistborn free eBook? I'm subscribed, but I guess I've registered after that book's giveaway. How can I get the past TOR's offerings?
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Where in TOR can I get the Mistborn free eBook? I'm subscribed, but I guess I've registered after that book's giveaway. How can I get the past TOR's offerings?
Pop me your email address and I can send you a copy of the email with the link to the PDF still valid.
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:57 AM   #348
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I've sent you a PM, JSWolf. Thank you
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:40 AM   #349
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Does anybody know if it is still possible to get John Scalzi's _Old Man's War_ from Tor? I signed up too late to get it, I guess. I've got all the others (I think) except _Mistborn_ which I have in paper.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:33 AM   #350
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Does anybody know if it is still possible to get John Scalzi's _Old Man's War_ from Tor? I signed up too late to get it, I guess. I've got all the others (I think) except _Mistborn_ which I have in paper.
Give me your email and I'll forward a copy of the message to you via Tor so you can get it.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:50 AM   #351
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Do you mean TOR? I have 18 from the so far.
I only have 17 - I seem to be missing one from the first week of June. Was there one around June 6 or 7?
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Old 06-15-2008, 12:33 PM   #352
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I only have 17 - I seem to be missing one from the first week of June. Was there one around June 6 or 7?
Yes, 06 June
Orphans of Chaos by John Wright
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Old 06-15-2008, 12:37 PM   #353
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I only have 17 - I seem to be missing one from the first week of June. Was there one around June 6 or 7?
If you still have the June 13 e-mail (In the Garden of Iden by Kage Baker), it also included a link to the previous weeks ebook (Orphans of Chaos by John Wright).
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Old 06-15-2008, 12:42 PM   #354
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That's bizarre - I downloaded the book, but the email message has completely disappeared.

Thanks for the help.
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:55 PM   #355
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Well, I just finished Wright's Orphans of Chaos, then went looking for the digital version of the next one to buy and.... no digital version.

What kind of (*&%R%E(( perverted logic is that, Tor.

Sheesh.
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:11 PM   #356
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Well, I just finished Wright's Orphans of Chaos, then went looking for the digital version of the next one to buy and.... no digital version.

What kind of (*&%R%E(( perverted logic is that, Tor.

Sheesh.
The logic of a company still groping for a coherent digital strategy.

Tor sister company St. Martin's has recently offered a few digital editions of mysteries to promoter particular authors and get folks to sign up for a mailing list. Tor parent company Holtzbrink is unifying their various imprints under the Macmillan umbrella.

Tor probably doesn't have a digital edition of the next Wright Chaos novel, and even if they do, they have no way for you to buy it.

Right now, they are doing what the Baen Free Library was originally intended to do: promote authors, and spur sales of dead tree editions. Back when the Free Library began, Jim Baen didn't see pure electronic publishing as a source of profit. It's become so with the Webscriptions offerings, but that was after the fact.

Give Tor and Holtzbrink time. At least they are aware of ebooks, and I expect we'll see them offered for sale down the road.

Meanwhile, you can always buy the paper edition...

(BTW: I know John Wright. He'll be pleased you liked the first enough to want the second.)
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The logic of a company still groping for a coherent digital strategy.

Tor sister company St. Martin's has recently offered a few digital editions of mysteries to promoter particular authors and get folks to sign up for a mailing list. Tor parent company Holtzbrink is unifying their various imprints under the Macmillan umbrella.

Tor probably doesn't have a digital edition of the next Wright Chaos novel, and even if they do, they have no way for you to buy it.

Right now, they are doing what the Baen Free Library was originally intended to do: promote authors, and spur sales of dead tree editions. Back when the Free Library began, Jim Baen didn't see pure electronic publishing as a source of profit. It's become so with the Webscriptions offerings, but that was after the fact.

Give Tor and Holtzbrink time. At least they are aware of ebooks, and I expect we'll see them offered for sale down the road.

Meanwhile, you can always buy the paper edition...

(BTW: I know John Wright. He'll be pleased you liked the first enough to want the second.)
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Count me as another who'd like to buy the second book... in bits. I'm now restricting paper purchases to the very few books that I really love, and those that I consider as "comfort reads." Everything else has become "bits and library only."

Can you suggest to John Wright that he poke his publisher about e-Editions? He's missing at least a few sales due to the lack of bits.

There's no more room on the shelves (or the floor, or the walls, or in the basement and attic, or...).

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And I would like to buy the 3rd book, in his "Golden Age" trilogy. Just tell him to publish his works in e-format already!
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Tor sister company St. Martin's has recently offered a few digital editions of mysteries to promoter particular authors and get folks to sign up for a mailing list. Tor parent company Holtzbrink is unifying their various imprints under the Macmillan umbrella.
Fictionwise does have one of his books from a St. Martin's imprint (http://fictionwise.com/ebooks/eBook2116.htm) copyright 2002 at a HARDBACK price. Again, convoluted logic - are they trying to 'prove' there is no ebook market? Why would someone buy an ebook at around $17 after rebates that you can probably pick up in a dead tree edition for around $8?

As far as Baen goes, I have downloaded many of the books from the 'free' library to have as options when I travel, but when I read them I go back and pay for them after the fact. I use a similar approach at podiobooks.com fwiw.
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Fictionwise does have one of his books from a St. Martin's imprint (http://fictionwise.com/ebooks/eBook2116.htm) copyright 2002 at a HARDBACK price. Again, convoluted logic - are they trying to 'prove' there is no ebook market? Why would someone buy an ebook at around $17 after rebates that you can probably pick up in a dead tree edition for around $8?
I don't know what Fictionwise pays St. Martins, but I suspect their price is determined in part by what St. Martin's charges them.

And that sort of issue is a quandary even in pure paper editions. Tor learned the hard way to be careful about timing when remaindering a hardcover edition, after they remaindered the HCs of a couple of Robert Jordan Wheel of Time novels at the same time they put out the mass market PB editions. You could buy the remainder HC at someplace like Barnes and Noble cheaper than the MMPB...

Ultimately, pricing is one of the big issues a publisher must deal with. There will be a cost to them to produce the book, whether in paper or electronic form. They must purchase the rights, edit the manuscript, and mark it up for production. Each book will also carry a share of the overhead of the overall operation. And even with ebooks, there are costs for servers to store them, bandwidth to produce them, and website maintenance to let you buy them. That will set a base price they will need to charge to simply cover their costs.

Beyond that, they will want to charge the highest price the market will pay, to make the best margin. The question is what that price is?

I suspect we may see a move to tiered pricing similar to what another poster here recounted as experience with a new Laurel K. Hamilton novel in the Kindle store at Amazon: the initial price was $20+, dropping over a period of a week or so to the "normal" $9.99 price. Hamilton is popular enough that some folks may well want the book badly enough right now to pay a higher price rather than waiting for it to drop.
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