Change of heart at Apple?

[afv011]

Originally Posted by frahse

Simply put:
7" iPad for $499. Convenient. Fits most purses and man-purses. Also inside jacket pockets.

They don't have to compete on price. The Apple aficionados would buy it for the regular price, but if they needed an excuse, they could just say they didn't expect to have the same volume for the 7" product.

(I hope "Apple aficionado" isn't considered name calling.)

$499 for a 7" locked-down fondleslab would be highway robbery (you can buy a 10" Transformer 300 for $379, with 1GB RAM and Quad-core Tegra III), but it would probably still sell to a select few. Even the Sammy 7.7 Tab Plus is "only" $449, but comes with a modem.

[frahse]

Originally Posted by afv011

$499 for a 7" locked-down fondleslab would be highway robbery (you can buy a 10" Transformer 300 for $379, with 1GB RAM and Quad-core Tegra III), but it would probably still sell to a select few. Even the Sammy 7.7 Tab Plus is "only" $449, but comes with a modem.

You have got the wrong set of glasses on. You need the glasses with the Apple Red tint, and then it would be a great thing.

Women could carry the $499 7" iPad in their purses. Frenchmen and other fashionistas could carry the 7" iPad in their man-purses. Other men could carry it in their inside jacket pockets.

afv011, you need to move away from the simplistic droid world that worries about "bang for buck" and other overly narrowed economical and ergonomic viewpoints.

We are talking "Apple."

[afv011]

Originally Posted by frahse

You have got the wrong set of glasses on. You need the glasses with the Apple Red tint, and then it would be a great thing.

Women could carry the $499 7" iPad in their purses. Frenchmen and other fashionistas could carry the 7" iPad in their man-purses. Other men could carry it in their inside jacket pockets.

afv011, you need to move away from the simplistic droid world that worries about "bang for buck" and other overly narrowed economical and ergonomic viewpoints.

We are talking "Apple."

Don't forget baristas!

[BuddyBoy]

Originally Posted by hrosvit

This.

I own several Apple devices, including an iPhone and a brand spanking new Fondleslab, and am pretty satisfied with them (I'm considering having the iPad surgically attached). But I don't try to delude myself by believing that Apple is a different kind of company than any other trying to make a buck. They happen to make some devices which fit specific needs (wants) I have. But they fall far, far short in some other categories, so I have other, different devices. And when I sleep, all my devices come to life and slug it out in the living room.

I know, right? Every morning, there's always a scattering of small parts on the floor, and new scuffs on my electronics. It's like a tech Fight Club, with the Apple gang taking on the Kindle Faction and HP. Sony hides under the sofa.

[SeaKing]

Originally Posted by BuddyBoy

I know, right? Every morning, there's always a scattering of small parts on the floor, and new scuffs on my electronics. It's like a tech Fight Club, with the Apple gang taking on the Kindle Faction and HP. Sony hides under the sofa.

Its great for the user.

I don't bother with the dog and cock fights anymore. The tech wars are where the action is.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by frahse

I have to disagree on what most say about a 7" iPad. I believe that Apple could sell a 7" iPad at the same cost of a 9.7" iPad or even say $50 cheaper and sell a lot of them. Some of the regular iPad customers would get them so they could more easily carry them about.

Simply put:
7" iPad for $499. Convenient. Fits most purses and man-purses. Also inside jacket pockets.

They don't have to compete on price. The Apple aficionados would buy it for the regular price, but if they needed an excuse, they could just say they didn't expect to have the same volume for the 7" product.

(I hope "Apple aficionado" isn't considered name calling.)

The first thing that they could worry about is the fact that making a 7" iPad would be like saying that Steve Jobs was wrong. I don't think that the new management is at that point yet.

Then you have this:

Chief executive Tim Cook said the idea of combining the iPad and MacBook Air would "wind up compromising" both.

I was saying that they would have the same perspective on making something between an iPhone and an iPad.

[frahse]

Originally Posted by BuddyBoy

I know, right? Every morning, there's always a scattering of small parts on the floor, and new scuffs on my electronics. It's like a tech Fight Club, with the Apple gang taking on the Kindle Faction and HP. Sony hides under the sofa.

Originally Posted by SeaKing

Its great for the user.

I don't bother with the dog and cock fights anymore. The tech wars are where the action is.

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

The first thing that they could worry about is the fact that making a 7" iPad would be like saying that Steve Jobs was wrong. I don't think that the new management is at that point yet.

Then you have this:

I was saying that they would have the same perspective on making something between an iPhone and an iPad.

Everyone has points as to why a 7" iPad would bring about seemingly conflicts.

Yes Jobs said so and so. --but time has passed, and Jobs changed his mind occasionally as well.
Yes a $499 or even a $450 7" iPad would have to have a pricing explanation. -- ("simply we don't expect the volume of the most wonderful and heavenly magical 9.7" iPad".)
Yes, there might be competition with the 9.7" iPad or the iPod or the iPhone, but we will still make out profit if not more at $499 or even $450.

The BIGGIE point for doing it is that those upstart despicable turf busting and patent violating DROID companies are stealing some of our thunder in the 7" market. -- Set the Fab Factories and the Foundries to work. We will show those upstarts who the King of the Range is! COMPETITION!.

[Talldog]

I don't see why Apple wouldn't come out with a 7" iPad. The two sizes appeal to different markets, and Apple can always get their premium price for the quality of the fit and finish.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by frahse

Yes Jobs said so and so. --but time has passed, and Jobs changed his mind occasionally as well.

There is a difference between someone saying that they were wrong and saying that their former boss who died only half a year ago was wrong.

Originally Posted by frahse

Yes a $499 or even a $450 7" iPad would have to have a pricing explanation. -- ("simply we don't expect the volume of the most wonderful and heavenly magical 9.7" iPad".)

Actually at this price the argument would have to be: we don't expect to get even a fraction of the sales numbers of the initial iPad.

[leebase]

Originally Posted by Talldog

I wonder how many people even remember that Apple themselves stole the window GUI interface, which was actually developed at the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center.

Wrong. Apple PAID Xerox. And not after the fact, either.

[MovieBird]

Originally Posted by leebase

Wrong. Apple PAID Xerox. And not after the fact, either.

Can you point to a source that explicitly details that the Xerox tour included the right to use any ideas seen therein? All I can find is the option to buy stock, pre-IPO so it was worthless at the time, for a tour.

[Greg Anos]

Originally Posted by MovieBird

Can you point to a source that explicitly details that the Xerox tour included the right to use any ideas seen therein? All I can find is the option to buy stock, pre-IPO so it was worthless at the time, for a tour.

Even if they paid for it, they still didn't invent it. Apple simply capitalized on somebody else's work. (Which is what Apple has done virtually their entire corporate history.)

[elcreative]

Originally Posted by MovieBird

Can you point to a source that explicitly details that the Xerox tour included the right to use any ideas seen therein? All I can find is the option to buy stock, pre-IPO so it was worthless at the time, for a tour.

Can you point to an independent, unbiased and reliable source that says they didn't have the right to use them, that Xerox didn't let them, that Xerox benefitted in no way?

[elcreative]

Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

Even if they paid for it, they still didn't invent it. Apple simply capitalized on somebody else's work. (Which is what Apple has done virtually their entire corporate history.)

Gosh and nobody else does that... when Gates promised IBM their OS he had to buy it in from its inventor... and the list goes on... and on... and on... It's common practice for every tech company (hardware or soft) to capitalise on somebody else's work... often because they have a better way to employ it... which just might give a better business product... so what?

Get over it and find a real reason to kick Apple or whatever other company becomes the scapegoat of the day (or thread)... there's plenty of targets out there if you've nothing better to do...

[leebase]

Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

Even if they paid for it, they still didn't invent it. Apple simply capitalized on somebody else's work. (Which is what Apple has done virtually their entire corporate history.)

A company doesn't have to invent everything. Still, look at the $2500 Mac and the $15,000 Xerox Star. Apple did quite a bit of innovating on their own.

Lee