Do e-ink devices "burn-in"

gravescp · 06-03-2008, 09:02 PM

It was a problem with old tv, video games, and some early computer monitors/screens. Can e-ink devices get a 'burned in' image if they are left on with one screen for a extended period of time?

Dylrob · 06-03-2008, 10:38 PM

No. You may notice an occasional ghosting, but this always goes away after a few refreshes. True burn-in is only a potential problem with displays that use phosphors (CRTs and Plasmas).

As a sidenote, there's no way to actually turn one of these screens "off". EInk is bistable... it requires no power except when refreshing... so even when there appears to be nothing on the screen you're still staring at an "image" (a blank one).

kacir · 06-04-2008, 09:39 AM

I see not problem with my 1 year old PRS 500. I use it every day for at least 1 hour, usually more.

gravescp · 06-04-2008, 11:59 PM

Thanks, thats what I thought

MickeyC · 06-05-2008, 04:39 PM

I've had my Sony 505 since early January and have used it a lot with no evidence of burn in or even ghosting.

Dylrob · 06-05-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cassidym

I've had my Sony 505 since early January and have used it a lot with no evidence of burn in or even ghosting.

The older version of the screens, such as what my PRS500 uses, were apparently much more prone to ghosting than the newer "Vizplex" ones they have now. (I say apparently since I haven't personally seen one of the newer screens in RL)

The Skwerl · 06-06-2008, 07:00 PM

Yeah I get a little ghosting but after a couple of minutes I dont really notice anymore and it barely last to long really. I run with a prs-500. I like my little reader.

Ervserver · 06-06-2008, 07:44 PM

My eyes start to ghost over after reading 4-5 hours straight

RickyMaveety · 06-09-2008, 09:25 PM

I've noticed the ghosting on my Kindle. Glad to know it's a normal sort of thing and not a problem.

astrodad · 06-18-2008, 12:21 PM

No ghosting whatsoever on my PRS-505. I bought it in January and I read at least an hour a day, peaking at six hours once during a travel delay.

JSWolf · 06-25-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

I've noticed the ghosting on my Kindle. Glad to know it's a normal sort of thing and not a problem.

From what we've read, the early Kindles may have been produced with the 1st generation eink screens before Vizplex. I've not yet seen any Vizplex that ghosts. So it's possible you might have a 1st gen eink screen which usually does have some sort of ghosting.

HarryT · 06-26-2008, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

From what we've read, the early Kindles may have been produced with the 1st generation eink screens before Vizplex. I've not yet seen any Vizplex that ghosts. So it's possible you might have a 1st gen eink screen which usually does have some sort of ghosting.

No, this is utterly false. All Kindles have a VizPlex screen.

brandoniain · 12-29-2008, 12:36 PM

As a matter of record, my Sony PRS-700 does exhibit issues of ghosting from time to time. I've only had it a week now, but after a charge session there is a slight ghosting of the charging screen - but this goes away after I turn the reader on (i.e. refresh to the home screen.)

It's a little disconcerting at first, but as others have said, these type of screens don't burn-in, so it's not really anything to worry about.

Andybaby · 12-29-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

No, this is utterly false. All Kindles have a VizPlex screen.

and i had a kindle 2 months ago, still had the ghosting of the last page, though it wasnt nearly as bad as the 500,

my 700 has no ghosting at all except what brandoniain said. it doesnt care about ghosting when its off. but when its on, there is no ghosting... EVEN!, while fast scrolling pages without the refresh or zoom scrolling a page. the black refresh only seems to Define the sub pixel dithering to give txt that sub pixel clear type effect. though the black flash is so fast on the 700 that it takes longer for my eyes to get to the top of the page

lilac_jive · 12-29-2008, 11:35 PM

The only time I have a real problem with ghosting is when it gets really cold. It goes away when it warms up though.

06-03-2008, 09:02 PM	#1
gravescp Member Posts: 23 Karma: 57 Join Date: May 2008 Device: iphone	Do e-ink devices "burn-in" It was a problem with old tv, video games, and some early computer monitors/screens. Can e-ink devices get a 'burned in' image if they are left on with one screen for a extended period of time?

06-03-2008, 10:38 PM	#2
Dylrob Murderous Mustela Posts: 10,234 Karma: 48000000 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The other land of schnitzel and beer Device: iPad M1 Pro, Kindle Paperwhite	No. You may notice an occasional ghosting, but this always goes away after a few refreshes. True burn-in is only a potential problem with displays that use phosphors (CRTs and Plasmas). As a sidenote, there's no way to actually turn one of these screens "off". EInk is bistable... it requires no power except when refreshing... so even when there appears to be nothing on the screen you're still staring at an "image" (a blank one). Last edited by Dylrob; 06-03-2008 at 10:53 PM.

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kacir Wizard Posts: 3,465 Karma: 10684861 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PocketBook 360, before it was Sony Reader, cassiopeia A-20	I see not problem with my 1 year old PRS 500. I use it every day for at least 1 hour, usually more.

06-04-2008, 11:59 PM	#4
gravescp Member Posts: 23 Karma: 57 Join Date: May 2008 Device: iphone	Thanks, thats what I thought

06-05-2008, 04:39 PM	#5
MickeyC Grand Sorcerer Posts: 16,731 Karma: 12185114 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida Device: iPhone 6 plus, Sony T1, iPad 3	I've had my Sony 505 since early January and have used it a lot with no evidence of burn in or even ghosting.

06-06-2008, 07:00 PM	#7
The Skwerl Super Skwerl Posts: 94 Karma: 200 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeneville, TN Device: Sony 500	Yeah I get a little ghosting but after a couple of minutes I dont really notice anymore and it barely last to long really. I run with a prs-500. I like my little reader.

06-06-2008, 07:44 PM	#8
Ervserver Wizard Posts: 2,624 Karma: 1008294 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa, USA Device: Nook Simple Touch	My eyes start to ghost over after reading 4-5 hours straight

06-09-2008, 09:25 PM	#9
RickyMaveety Holy S**T!!! Posts: 5,213 Karma: 108401 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego, California!! Device: Kindle and iPad	I've noticed the ghosting on my Kindle. Glad to know it's a normal sort of thing and not a problem.

06-18-2008, 12:21 PM	#10
astrodad Guru Posts: 962 Karma: 568242 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Oasis 3, Kindle Paperwhite 1, iPad, iPhone	No ghosting whatsoever on my PRS-505. I bought it in January and I read at least an hour a day, peaking at six hours once during a travel delay.

12-29-2008, 12:36 PM	#13
brandoniain Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2008 Device: PRS-700	As a matter of record, my Sony PRS-700 does exhibit issues of ghosting from time to time. I've only had it a week now, but after a charge session there is a slight ghosting of the charging screen - but this goes away after I turn the reader on (i.e. refresh to the home screen.) It's a little disconcerting at first, but as others have said, these type of screens don't burn-in, so it's not really anything to worry about.

12-29-2008, 11:35 PM	#15
lilac_jive Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,870 Karma: 27376 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Device: PRS-505	The only time I have a real problem with ghosting is when it gets really cold. It goes away when it warms up though.