Big 6 decline to renew with Amazon - Page 4

ProfCrash · 04-11-2012, 12:25 PM

I think we can safely assume that Amazon controls more then 25% of the e-book market in the US. I would guess, based on the few numbers and analysis that gets tossed around, that Amazon controls close to 60%, potentially more, of the US market.

While the posters here and at other sites on the internet know of Alf and Calibre, the average user does not. They buy their books from the store attached to their device, Kobo, BN, Amazon, because it is easy and convienent. They are not likely to go looking for the independent stores. They probably are not looking for the independent authors. They are not stripping DRM and converting.

The Publishers know this. Amazon knows this. The Publishers are trying to flex some muscle. Amazon is trying to flex some muscle. They will come to an agreement at some point in time. There is no good guys. There are coorporations trying to maximize profits.

calibrated · 04-11-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

The Publishers are trying to flex some muscle. Amazon is trying to flex some muscle. They will come to an agreement at some point in time. There is no good guys. There are coorporations trying to maximize profits.

This.

bwaldron · 04-11-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

The Publishers know this. Amazon knows this. The Publishers are trying to flex some muscle. Amazon is trying to flex some muscle. They will come to an agreement at some point in time. There is no good guys. There are corporations trying to maximize profits.

Sure. However, some corporations are smarter about maximizing their profits by serving their customers better. Some die because they don't do that. Competition is a good thing.

caleb72 · 04-11-2012, 07:57 PM

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And compared to the overall scale of its profits, $1 million a year is basically what Amazon finds going through the sofa cushions.

I wish I had that kind of problem.

jhempel24 · 04-11-2012, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by caleb72

I wish I had that kind of problem.

no doubt!

hoping, wishing, all this DOJ stuff and Amazon vs Big 6 begins the start of some sort of thing OTHER than agency pricing

tubemonkey · 04-12-2012, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jhempel24

no doubt!

hoping, wishing, all this DOJ stuff and Amazon vs Big 6 begins the start of some sort of thing OTHER than agency pricing

How about high wholesale pricing - $14.99 and up? Amazon is now free to mark down.

emellaich · 04-12-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

How about high wholesale pricing - $14.99 and up? Amazon is now free to mark down.

Amazon has already announced that they will mark down:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/12/bu...ng-rivals.html

tubemonkey · 04-12-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by emellaich

Amazon has already announced that they will mark down:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/12/bu...ng-rivals.html

Link requires an account.

JSWolf · 04-12-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Link requires an account.

That's odd. I was able to read it just before you posted this message and now I'm not able to read it.

JSWolf · 04-12-2012, 11:16 AM

Can we please find other sources of the news other then the New York Times as most of us cannot get in to read the articles? Thanks.

DiapDealer · 04-12-2012, 11:21 AM

The link to the New York Times article works just fine for me. And I have no NYTimes account. I'm not sure what the complaints are.

jgaiser · 04-12-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

The link to the New York Times article works just fine for me. And I have no NYTimes account. I'm not sure what the complaints are.

Yep. Works fine for me also. And there's always BugMeNot if you need a throwaway login.

danskmacabre · 04-12-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

The link to the New York Times article works just fine for me. And I have no NYTimes account. I'm not sure what the complaints are.

Same here.

tubemonkey · 04-12-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

The link to the New York Times article works just fine for me. And I have no NYTimes account. I'm not sure what the complaints are.

It wants a login and 5 bananas. Extortion, I tell you.

DiapDealer · 04-12-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

It wants a login and 5 bananas. Extortion, I tell you.

Meh... ain't worth more than maybe a papaya or two.

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04-11-2012, 12:25 PM	#46
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I think we can safely assume that Amazon controls more then 25% of the e-book market in the US. I would guess, based on the few numbers and analysis that gets tossed around, that Amazon controls close to 60%, potentially more, of the US market. While the posters here and at other sites on the internet know of Alf and Calibre, the average user does not. They buy their books from the store attached to their device, Kobo, BN, Amazon, because it is easy and convienent. They are not likely to go looking for the independent stores. They probably are not looking for the independent authors. They are not stripping DRM and converting. The Publishers know this. Amazon knows this. The Publishers are trying to flex some muscle. Amazon is trying to flex some muscle. They will come to an agreement at some point in time. There is no good guys. There are coorporations trying to maximize profits.

04-12-2012, 11:16 AM	#55
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,727 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Can we please find other sources of the news other then the New York Times as most of us cannot get in to read the articles? Thanks.

04-12-2012, 11:21 AM	#56
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	The link to the New York Times article works just fine for me. And I have no NYTimes account. I'm not sure what the complaints are.