Front-lit screen for new e-ink Kindle? - Page 2

HarryT · 04-08-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RainingLemur

I keep waiting for these things to happen. They need to hurry up, I'm getting impatient.

Why not just get a lighted cover? They work very well.

Namekuseijin · 04-08-2012, 01:15 PM

what?! But isn't that like looking directly into a flashlight and making it harder for you to sleep after bedtime reading?

HarryT · 04-08-2012, 01:22 PM

No. With a lighted cover (at least with the Amazon lighted cover) the light is shielded; it shines onto the screen, not into your eyes.

stickybuns · 04-08-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Namekuseijin

what?! But isn't that like looking directly into a flashlight and making it harder for you to sleep after bedtime reading?

If I understand correctly, an LED has been built in the ereader frame and angled so that it will evenly shine ACROSS the surface and NOT towards your face.

Namekuseijin · 04-08-2012, 03:26 PM

not much different than dimmed backlit LCDs. Don't forget optical phenomena only happens precisely because light bounces around and eventually reaches your eyes.

and you still gotta get "headaches" for reading "in the dark"...

Barty · 04-08-2012, 04:30 PM

I want a better screen, not a more gimmicky one. I think this will probably just add weight, bulk, and encourage me to read without adequate lighting, which is worse for me eyes.

And isn't the advantage of eink not having light emanating from the screen. Not the same thing as backlit LCD, but seems closer to it than to outside light source.

Kumabjorn · 04-08-2012, 04:50 PM

I assume you can turn the light on and off, right?
Light waves hitting the eye will be indirect reflections from the e-ink screen and not direct light like LCD or LED?

pdurrant · 04-08-2012, 04:53 PM

If the next eInk Kindle has a 1024x768 plastic screen with front lighting, I think I would be tempted.

i.e. I'm hoping all the rumoured new tech makes it into one product!

GeckoFriend · 04-08-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

If the next eInk Kindle has a 1024x768 plastic screen with front lighting, I think I would be tempted.

i.e. I'm hoping all the rumoured new tech makes it into one product!

I won't even need to think about it; my credit card will be smoking.

Kumabjorn · 04-08-2012, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GeckoFriend

I won't even need to think about it; my credit card will be smoking.

Ok, I'll trade my first born.

This is a competion, right?

JSWolf · 04-08-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Namekuseijin

what?! But isn't that like looking directly into a flashlight and making it harder for you to sleep after bedtime reading?

Not at all. I have a light cover for my 650 and I can get to sleep just fine after using it at night. I don't use it as much as I used to since I bought a light at Ikea that clips to the headboard that I use to read in bed at night. The Ikea light is very even and doesn't use any battery of the reader.

This front light is no worse then the light cover for the Kindle as both use the Kindle's battery to power the light.

JSWolf · 04-08-2012, 06:34 PM

A 1024x768 screen would be much nicer then a front light (IMHO).

BWinmill · 04-08-2012, 06:38 PM

Does anyone know why this technology is so late in coming? This doesn't sound very different from the the backlight used in modern LCDs or the frontlight used in ancient LCDs.

JSWolf · 04-08-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BWinmill

Does anyone know why this technology is so late in coming? This doesn't sound very different from the the backlight used in modern LCDs or the frontlight used in ancient LCDs.

Because it can't impact the clarity of the screen.

HarryT · 04-09-2012, 01:35 AM

I'm sure we all remember the fiasco of the Sony PRS-700 with its built-in light. The light worked fine; the problem was that the diffuser used to distribute the light made the screen look as if you were reading it through thick fog. I'm sure that no manufacturer wants to repeat that disaster.

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04-08-2012, 01:15 PM	#17
Namekuseijin affordable chipmunk Posts: 1,290 Karma: 9863855 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brazil Device: Sony XPeria ZL, Kindle Paperwhite	what?! But isn't that like looking directly into a flashlight and making it harder for you to sleep after bedtime reading?

04-08-2012, 01:22 PM	#18
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,547 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	No. With a lighted cover (at least with the Amazon lighted cover) the light is shielded; it shines onto the screen, not into your eyes.

04-08-2012, 03:26 PM	#20
Namekuseijin affordable chipmunk Posts: 1,290 Karma: 9863855 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brazil Device: Sony XPeria ZL, Kindle Paperwhite	not much different than dimmed backlit LCDs. Don't forget optical phenomena only happens precisely because light bounces around and eventually reaches your eyes. and you still gotta get "headaches" for reading "in the dark"...

04-08-2012, 04:30 PM	#21
Barty doofus Posts: 2,550 Karma: 13089041 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Voyage	I want a better screen, not a more gimmicky one. I think this will probably just add weight, bulk, and encourage me to read without adequate lighting, which is worse for me eyes. And isn't the advantage of eink not having light emanating from the screen. Not the same thing as backlit LCD, but seems closer to it than to outside light source.

04-08-2012, 04:50 PM	#22
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	I assume you can turn the light on and off, right? Light waves hitting the eye will be indirect reflections from the e-ink screen and not direct light like LCD or LED?

04-08-2012, 04:53 PM	#23
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 73,987 Karma: 315160596 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	If the next eInk Kindle has a 1024x768 plastic screen with front lighting, I think I would be tempted. i.e. I'm hoping all the rumoured new tech makes it into one product!

04-08-2012, 06:34 PM	#27
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,792 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	A 1024x768 screen would be much nicer then a front light (IMHO).

04-08-2012, 06:38 PM	#28
BWinmill Nameless Being	Does anyone know why this technology is so late in coming? This doesn't sound very different from the the backlight used in modern LCDs or the frontlight used in ancient LCDs.

04-09-2012, 01:35 AM	#30
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,547 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I'm sure we all remember the fiasco of the Sony PRS-700 with its built-in light. The light worked fine; the problem was that the diffuser used to distribute the light made the screen look as if you were reading it through thick fog. I'm sure that no manufacturer wants to repeat that disaster.