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Old 06-23-2008, 04:35 PM   #91
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Did not see it ..... just sayin'.

If someone is going to say nasty things about people I like .... they better splatter smiley faces alllll over the post. Otherwise, I'm takin' them seriously. And after that, I'm smacking them upside of their heads ... in a virtual way of course.
see, you might not have guessed it from WDecraene's post (although, if you read the whole series, it should have been rather clear), but you really should have caught on when *i* started slamming Tom Waits... if ever there was a situation where the irony meter shoots directly to 11, i'm pretty sure that is it.

hmm, WDecraene, i can't go with you for Michael Jackson and certain others of your choices, however i have to tip my hat to anyone who also likes :

Bauhaus
Einstürzende Neubauten
Sonic Youth
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds (up to the Mercy Seat)
Pixies
Beastie Boys
The Stooges
Latin dance music (Son, Salsa, Merengue, Cumbia, ...)
The "Buena Vista Social Club"
early jazz and bossanova
some Sinatra
Jaques Brel
Waits (Rain Dogs)
Radiohead
James Brown

and you are taking tango lessons... my my.

do you know, i saw Ruben Gonzalés in concert it was like an evening in heaven. that man has so much charisma you can't look directly at him. in between songs he told stories and somehow we understood everything he said.

(although i have to say, i am with your fiancée when it comes to those soundtracks, i'm afraid...)

allow me to recommend, since you like Jacques Brel, Charles Trenet also. two of my favorites : "Boum", and "la fenêtre d'en haut".
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do you know, i saw Ruben Gonzalés in concert it was like an evening in heaven. that man has so much charisma you can't look directly at him. in between songs he told stories and somehow we understood everything he said.
Me too !! And Ibrahim Ferrer (2x) as well and actually most of the other members of the BVSC. I missed Hendrix & Jim Morrison by a couple of decades but I'm truly glad that I still could see Gonzalez & Ferrer. Did you see the movie ??

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hmm, WDecraene, i can't go with you for Michael Jackson and certain others of your choices, however i have to tip my hat to anyone who also likes :

(although i have to say, i am with your fiancée when it comes to those soundtracks, i'm afraid...)
Women just don't understand. I love singing "You know I'm baaaaaad, I'm baaaaaad ... ... who's bad", or, "The hilllllllllllllllllllllssssssss are allllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiive .... with the sound of muuuuuuuuuuuusic".

I also do a good impression of a flamenco singer by the way. But that's something else.
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Me too !! And Ibrahim Ferrer (2x) as well and actually most of the other members of the BVSC. I missed Hendrix & Jim Morrison by a couple of decades but I'm truly glad that I still could see Gonzalez & Ferrer. Did you see the movie ??
heh, funny story about that : i first discovered Ibrahim Ferrer (never saw him in concert though, alas !! i would have loved to) when i got his cd at the library, just because i liked his photo on it. i loved it so much that i started looking for every old cuban musician i could find, and discovered Ruben Gonzales and a lot of others that way. when i was in the middle of this period where i listened exlusively to old cuban music i wrote a letter to a friend of mine, she was in New York at the time, telling her how amazing these musicians were. She wrote me back saying that she would let me go hunting out all the obscure cds, she was content to just listen to Buena Vista Social Club. I wrote her back : "what's that ?"

when i found out about that film (Wim Wenders is one of my favorite filmmakers, by the way) it was almost too much joy. the first time i saw it (in fact, every time i see it), at the end i had tears in my eyes from so much beauty.

so, yes, i saw the movie...

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hee ! no, i can't understand that at all...

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i'll bet it is.
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see, you might not have guessed it from WDecraene's post (although, if you read the whole series, it should have been rather clear), but you really should have caught on when *i* started slamming Tom Waits... if ever there was a situation where the irony meter shoots directly to 11, i'm pretty sure that is it.

The irony was clear in your posts ... not so much in his/hers. And, I did read the whole thread. Again, very clear in your posts ... his/hers not so much. And, when people say unkind things about people I like and respect, they generally tend to find out that I do not take kindly to it. If they are joking, better to make that ever so clear, because I'll go to the mat for those I support.

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i say it was clear if you read the whole series, because he was actually the first person to mention *liking* tom waits, wondering how it could be possible that no-one had mentioned him yet. so i replied ironically to that, and the whole thing went on from there.

with a few exceptions, most people / subjects around here are pretty easy going and tolerant, and there is also a lot of tongue in cheek humor, irony, sarcasm... since we don't know each other personally, and have no facial expressions to give us clues, i find it's best to give people the benefit of the doubt. when i see a post that at first glance *might* be rude, i generally give it a second look and / or wait to see how someone else replies, to make sure. maybe i just misunderstood, after all, or am feeling particularly over-sensitive that day...

sometimes, people really are just rude / offensive though.
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i say it was clear if you read the whole series, because he was actually the first person to mention *liking* tom waits, wondering how it could be possible that no-one had mentioned him yet. so i replied ironically to that, and the whole thing went on from there.

with a few exceptions, most people / subjects around here are pretty easy going and tolerant, and there is also a lot of tongue in cheek humor, irony, sarcasm... since we don't know each other personally, and have no facial expressions to give us clues, i find it's best to give people the benefit of the doubt. when i see a post that at first glance *might* be rude, i generally give it a second look and / or wait to see how someone else replies, to make sure. maybe i just misunderstood, after all, or am feeling particularly over-sensitive that day...

sometimes, people really are just rude / offensive though.
Ever so true. And, I will admit, Mr. Carlin's death has put me in a black mood. But, even on my best days, while I love silliness .... I detest sheer stupidity and willful ignorance. I have no patience for it.

Makes me very unpopular around the skinhead and knuckle-dragging types.
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Old 06-23-2008, 07:17 PM   #97
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yeah.... i feel confident asserting that WDecraene is neither a skinhead (except possibly in the most litteral sense) nor a knuckle-dragger. he really was being ironic.
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yeah.... i feel confident asserting that WDecraene is neither a skinhead (except possibly in the most litteral sense) nor a knuckle-dragger. he really was being ironic.
In which case ....

SORRY, WDecraene!!! You are apparently one of the good ones, and I am sorry I missed the irony in your posts. If Zeep says you are neither a skinhead nor a knuckle-dragger, then it must be true. Please proceed with the humerous portion of this thead as if I had never tossed my two cents into the ring.

I'm supposed to be cleaning up cat crap anyway .....

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What's the one piece of music that most drives you nuts/brings you to tears/makes you stand up and dance/whatever and why?
Picking one is hard. Too many songs make me dance/go nuts/whatever. But using the criteria of tears as a guide, I immediately thought of the one song that brings me to tears every time: Fly with the Wings of Love, performed by the Crusaders, featuring Joe Sample at piano, and accompanied by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, in a live concert in London.

I'm a jazz fan from waaaay back, and a Crusaders fan ever since I first heard them in the seventies. I'm also a Fantasia fan, and for whatever reason, listening to this song causes me to imagine a detailed animated sequence in my head, of two songbirds flying an intricate and sensuous dance over a lake, meeting other birds which accompany them in the "chorus," and a fiery-red starling that performs a "solo." The closing moments, with the birds alighting in sequence at the end of the movement, brings a tear to my eye whenever I hear it, or even think about it.

Fly with the Wings of Love may not be the perfect jazz song, but it makes me tear up every time.
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I cannot bear listening to Tom Waits' music. Neither can I listen to Ennio Morricone's music (particularly that for The Mission). I've only recently been able to tolerate Paul Simons' Rhythm of the Saints.

I do have my extremely subjective reasons for this of course.

Oddly, I've been listening to Sugarhill Gang's Rapper's Delight on repeat a lot over the last couple of weeks, though admittedly usually while working on photos (and learning how to use the Aperture software). That, and Get Funky Tonight (John Butler Trio). For some reason, I'm in a Kate Bush mood at the moment, and just realised that I only ever had an album of hers on tape, and so it looks like I'm ordering some Kate Bush music online today.

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I really liked Lee Marvin in "Paint Your Wagon" singing "I Was Born Under a Wandering Star". It always seemed appropriate for me.
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I cannot bear listening to Tom Waits' music. Neither can I listen to Ennio Morricone's music (particularly that for The Mission). I've only recently been able to tolerate Paul Simons' Rhythm of the Saints.

I do have my extremely subjective reasons for this of course.

Oddly, I've been listening to Sugarhill Gang's Rapper's Delight on repeat a lot over the last couple of weeks, though admittedly usually while working on photos (and learning how to use the Aperture software). That, and Get Funky Tonight (John Butler Trio). For some reason, I'm in a Kate Bush mood at the moment, and just realised that I only ever had an album of hers on tape, and so it looks like I'm ordering some Kate Bush music online today.

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Well, I would have to say that the two of us should never try to be in the same room listening to music, because one of us is almost certain to be gagging.

I think "The Mission" is one of the most beautiful things I've heard. "The Rhythm of the Saints" is not my favorite Paul Simon (that one would be "Graceland" ... ), and I can bear listening to Tom Wait's music.

The only Kate Bush song I've ever liked is "Don't Give Up" ... the duet she did with Peter Gabriel. However, I do like that song a lot. Not saying that I can't stand her singing ... just that it doesn't do that much for me personally.

Oh .... and I should put Peter Gabriel on my list .... because some of his music has brought me out of despair when nothing else seemed to work.

Most notably:

Solsbury Hill
Don't Give Up
Wallflower
Biko and
In Your Eyes

Wallflower in particular has some of the most moving lyrics ever written. Any time I've felt like there was no hope ... that's the music I listen to ... and it always makes me get back in the fight.
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I'm not a big fan of Tom Waits, I only have about 25 of his albums so perhaps I have not heard enough. Of his own music I think his best album was Small Change -- "Small Change got rained on with his own 38"

Of his songs performed by others (cover versions) my favorite is Ol' 55 as performed by the Eagles and the aformentioned Downtown Train.
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Well, I would have to say that the two of us should never try to be in the same room listening to music, because one of us is almost certain to be gagging.

I think "The Mission" is one of the most beautiful things I've heard. "The Rhythm of the Saints" is not my favorite Paul Simon (that one would be "Graceland" ... ), and I can bear listening to Tom Wait's music.
It is good of you to note my phrasing. As you could obviously see, I never said that I did not like Waits or Morricone - I simply said I could not tolerate listening to them, for unspecified subjective reasons.

Paul Simon's Graceland would likely be hovering around the number one spot as my favourite album of all. I am enjoying that my tolerance level has increased to allow me to listen to Rhythm of the Saints (which paradoxically means that "tolerance" fades as unnecessary). The Obvious Child makes me cry, as does Father & Daughter from Surprise, while Call me Al does the same for different reasons (I sometimes think Graceland as an album is underrated partly because of some aspects' affinity with an oft-loathed musical decade, the 80's...then it might just be me looking for excuses as to why people don't rate it as highly as me ).

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Although not my favourite, I do like that one (even moreso since Australia was subjected to an execrable cover of it recently, one half of the duet being a loathed (by me) Australian Idol contenstent, thus making the Gabriel/Bush version infinitely brilliant in comparison). I fondly remember playing the album So repeatedly. For tears though, I'd go for a song that you have listed - Solsbury Hill.

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It is good of you to note my phrasing. As you could obviously see, I never said that I did not like Waits or Morricone - I simply said I could not tolerate listening to them, for unspecified subjective reasons.

Paul Simon's Graceland would likely be hovering around the number one spot as my favourite album of all. I am enjoying that my tolerance level has increased to allow me to listen to Rhythm of the Saints (which paradoxically means that "tolerance" fades as unnecessary). The Obvious Child makes me cry, as does Father & Daughter from Surprise, while Call me Al does the same for different reasons (I sometimes think Graceland as an album is underrated partly because of some aspects' affinity with an oft-loathed musical decade, the 80's...then it might just be me looking for excuses as to why people don't rate it as highly as me ).



Although not my favourite, I do like that one (even moreso since Australia was subjected to an execrable cover of it recently, one half of the duet being a loathed (by me) Australian Idol contenstent, thus making the Gabriel/Bush version infinitely brilliant in comparison). I fondly remember playing the album So repeatedly. For tears though, I'd go for a song that you have listed - Solsbury Hill.

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Ah, well, then as long as it is "Graceland" or "So" ... we CAN be in the same room listening to music without one of us gagging!!

Isn't progress wonderful??

I simply must remember to put Peter Gabriel on all future lists of music that makes my heart take wing.

Oh well .... gotta clean out the litterboxes, take a fist full of Benadryl and hit the sandpaper sheets.

G'nite you son of Oz!!
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