Amazon tipped to launch three new Kindle tablets in 2012

[HansTWN]

Originally Posted by petermillard

but it's certainly not the case that everything pre-2007 was wonderful and working perfectly, then the iPhone came along and ruined it all...

Just sayin'

The point being that many things didn't exactly change for the better, the most unfortunate thing about it is that so many companies followed Apple's lead, depriving us of our choices. Well, the other companies also found out offering less functionality for more money makes a lot of sense for the bottom line!

But really, tell me how did the dust get into the covered SD card slots and not into the iphone's SIM card slot? It basically is the same.

[petermillard]

Originally Posted by HansTWN

Well, the other companies also found out offering less functionality for more money makes a lot of sense for the bottom line!

I think there's a bit more to it than that - as Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Motorola & LG have found out to their cost.

But really, tell me how did the dust get into the covered SD card slots and not into the iphone's SIM card slot? It basically is the same.

SIM card was buried inside the phone beneath the battery, so no slot as such. As I say, I was only there for a year, but as I understand it the company saw sense and started specifying 'ruggedised' phones for the people who needed them.

[Barty]

Originally Posted by sbroome

I'll never move over the cloud. I like to buy stuff and own it and be able to access it without internet access. No idea what people see in this cloud stuff.

I don't stream from the cloud, but I do stream from my PC. Disk space is cheaper than flash memory.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by petermillard

SIM card was buried inside the phone beneath the battery, so no slot as such.

The mSD card slot on my Galaxy Player 4 is located underneath the back cover. The same thing with my old school flip phone.

[plib]

Originally Posted by petermillard

it's certainly not the case that everything pre-2007 was wonderful and working perfectly, then the iPhone came along and ruined it all...

Just sayin'

I worked construction as a student, and smashed a watch while doing so. On the other hand my current watch has lasted over ten years, several batteries and countless straps maybe because, like most of the population, I don't currently work construction. Extreme conditions require ruggedized equipment, but that's what they are extreme conditions, not mainstream.

The iPhone sim card slots in externally, not internally, it has a completely unprotected adapter socket on the bottom and relatively unprotected speakers and buttons. I don't think one of them would last long in construction either. I certainly wouldn't take one to work on a concrete gang. On the other hand I've carried SD slot devices in my pocket for years and never, ever had a problem with them. I've never needed a "cloud" either.

To me it's still FUD and a desire from some quarters to promote expensive, limited "cloud" services.

[sbroome]

Originally Posted by plib

I know what providers see in "this cloud stuff".

$$$$$$$$$

The way there's a huge push towards it at the same time as tiered data plans and limited "unlimited" data is kinda hilarious.

[ilovejedd]

Originally Posted by sbroome

The way there's a huge push towards it at the same time as tiered data plans and limited "unlimited" data is kinda hilarious.

Exactly. Even my home broadband has a limit of 250GB per month. We need faster pipes and unlimited data (or more generous bandwidth limits) for the "cloud" to work.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by ilovejedd

Exactly. Even my home broadband has a limit of 250GB per month. We need faster pipes and unlimited data (or more generous bandwidth limits) for the "cloud" to work.

I agree. And that's just one thing we'd need for it to really work. There are others.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by HansTWN

The point being that many things didn't exactly change for the better, the most unfortunate thing about it is that so many companies followed Apple's lead, depriving us of our choices.

Did you not like when pcs stop arriving with floppy?

[HansTWN]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

Did you not like when pcs stop arriving with floppy?

Funny you should mention that --- we now need to go around and hunt for external floppy disks for use in our company. A lot of customers use old automated production equipment and the programs that are written for it must be input by 3 1/2" floppy disks. Took us a whole day scouting computer malls to come up with a vastly overpriced external drive that connects to USB just a few months ago for a customer. Only this way he can use a new computer for new software and it is still compatible with his machines.

Hell, some very old embroidery machines are still be run by tape with punch code.

[wizwor]

After eight pages...

I would love a seven inch Fire with blue tooth, gps, and a camera. It would need to cost less than $300.

[Prestidigitweeze]

Other people who might need more storage from their tablets: Original content creators, sound engineers, composers, filmmakers and field recordists. And those numbers should include amateurs, since content creation is one of the potential joys of owning a tablet for anyone.

That said, we have to stop presuming the KF is limited in terms of being a walled garden. I myself used to say this until I visited XDA and found that, when rooted, the Fire is a more flexible and powerful open Android Tablet than the Nook Color and other B&N offerings. People on that site have been ecstatic about their rooted experience with the Fire. Frankly, if I weren't watching my belt at the moment, I'd have grabbed one during Amazon's sale last weekend.

In the long run, I expect I'll need more power, though, and should save/lie in wait for sales accordingly. The iPad turns out to be quite a good device for music production on a small scale. The ASUS looks interesting, but I have yet to love the screen on any ASUS laptop or tablet I've tried so far. They always seem to skimp in that area. If the iPad runs a serviceable version of Logic, then it becomes the original music creation tablet for Android to beat. I'm hoping that Samsung will create something for Google after ASUS has its shot.

And I'd like a removable battery as well. Perhaps it's time for that feature to make a comeback on the same Android tablet that offers an SD slot or two.

And multiple dictionaries for the reader would be nice. Apple's inline dictionary is pretty, but it isn't going to help you if you're reading an Italian novel in which some of the words and phrases haven't been translated, or a bilingual edition of Mallarme.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by wizwor

After eight pages...

I would love a seven inch Fire with blue tooth, gps, and a camera. It would need to cost less than $300.

I want a 7" tablet with ICS, Google Play, and mSD for less than $200.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

I want a 7" tablet with ICS, Google Play, and mSD for less than $200.

I want a 5" tablet than unfolds to 10", with a life time supply of ice cream sandwiches, delivered by a Playboy Playmate who owes me $200.

ApK

[TimW]

Originally Posted by ApK

I want a 5" tablet than unfolds to 10", with a life time supply of ice cream sandwiches, delivered by a Playboy Playmate who owes me $200.

ApK

I'm voting for yours.