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Old 03-20-2012, 10:24 AM   #46
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Apple didn't release iPad2 initial sales figures, so where is the 1 million number from?
And, just possibly, do you think that day 1 sales would be higher than days 2 and 3?
The number comes from estimates: http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/14/apple-...nalysts-claim/. Some locations sold out in 10 minutes, and you didn't see that kind of demand with the new iPad.
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The number comes from estimates: http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/14/apple-...nalysts-claim/. Some locations sold out in 10 minutes, and you didn't see that kind of demand with the new iPad.
We'll never really know how sales would have been like since Apple just didn't have enough stock of the iPad 2. Yes, some locations sold out in 10 minutes. What are the absolute numbers, though? It could be that during the previous release, stores only had 100 each and sold all those within 10 minutes. This time, each store may have been allocated 400 each and sold 300 during opening weekend. I'd say those are pretty good figures.

Another thing, I reckon a lot more people were able to pre-order this time so those are less folks having to wait in line to get their iPads on release. The iPad 2 pre-orders lasted 12 hours before it went on back order. This time, the iPad 3rd gen was available for pre-order for release date delivery until early Sunday morning (iirc).

Sure, the new iPad may not have sold out as quickly as the iPad 2. They still sold a lot of them in just one weekend. Probably more than any single quarter sale of non-Nook and non-Kindle Android tablets combined.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:50 AM   #48
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Sure, the new iPad may not have sold out as quickly as the iPad 2. They still sold a lot of them in just one weekend. Probably more than any single quarter sale of non-Nook and non-Kindle Android tablets combined.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/28/samsun...nts-wont-help/

Even Samsung is not confident. & they only talk about shipped, not sold. I wanted to actually buy a Samsung galaxy note, until I saw it was a phone. I don't need a phone. But this would make a great reader or Internet device, which I have read is pretty good.
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The number comes from estimates: http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/14/apple-...nalysts-claim/. Some locations sold out in 10 minutes, and you didn't see that kind of demand with the new iPad.
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“We would not be surprised to see Apple sell closer to 1 million iPad2s in the opening weekend,” Wedbush Securities analyst Scott Sutherland told Reuters
So:
a) The 1 million is just an estimate (guess), not an actual sales number
b) It was over the opening weekend, not the first day

That's actually quite different to "The iPad2 sold out 1 million in the first day"

The first three days of iPad 3 sales were Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
That sort of sounds like an opening weekend. And they sold 3 million of them.
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It does not matter whether it sold out or not. If you're a fanboy, the iPad sold out in a blaze of glory in a matter of microseconds. If you're not a fanboy, the iPad is just another overpriced toy and you wouldn't care a bit.
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It does not matter whether it sold out or not. If you're a fanboy, the iPad sold out in a blaze of glory in a matter of microseconds. If you're not a fanboy, the iPad is just another overpriced toy and you wouldn't care a bit.
Facts matter, whoever you are.
Whether it is an overpriced toy or not has nothing to do with how many units were sold this time vs last time. This overpriced toy seems to have sold much better than the previous one. I'm not sure how interesting that is, but then I didn't start this thread.
Criticizing something based on features (or lack of them), price, etc.. is fine. Criticizing something based on made up, or badly quoted, facts, is advocacy.

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It does not matter whether it sold out or not. If you're a fanboy, the iPad sold out in a blaze of glory in a matter of microseconds. If you're not a fanboy, the iPad is just another overpriced toy and you wouldn't care a bit.
It sold well.
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Facts matter, whoever you are.
Whether it is an overpriced toy or not has nothing to do with how many units were sold this time vs last time. This overpriced toy seems to have sold much better than the previous one. I'm not sure how interesting that is, but then I didn't start this thread.
Criticizing something based on features (or lack of them), price, etc.. is fine. Criticizing something based on made up, or badly quoted, facts, is advocacy.
Hit a nerve? Have you heard of sarcasm?
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It seems that the people who think it is an overpriced toy care an awful lot about how well it sold, not sure why?
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It seems that the people who think it is an overpriced toy care an awful lot about how well it sold, not sure why?
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Hit a nerve? Have you heard of sarcasm?
Guess many of us have heard of sarcasm... have you tried using it yourself... use of fanboy immediately moves from trying sarcasm to being rude and insulting... don't suppose that matters though as you're only digging at Apple equipment users who you have already spent plenty of time and effort on insulting...

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Personally, I'm waiting for the sub$500 retina screen iPad that can fit in my purse and never shatter.

With 500g HD
Clearly, you need a larger purse!

Actually, my new just barely sub-500 16 gig wifi iPad fits very nicely into my manbag, which is one of those 7x10 leather jobbies with lots of manly zippers and heavy metal hardware demonstrating clearly that THIS IS NOT A PURSE but rather, some kind of dangerous weapon holster that might even be illegal in certain states, but comes free with your hat & boots in Texas.

My iPad will never shatter until it does, either. I didn't buy the Apple Care, but was told it now covers accidental damage. I have decided not to become engaged in accidental behavior, though I do not rule out inadvertent actions while handling bourbon.

Truth is, the iPad is rather small for a large device. But I agree, what we (meaning "I") need now from Apple is one that is rather large for a small device. We need a PocketPad, or, in your case, a PursePad.

Harking back to the OP, I have no idea whether the iPad has sold out. I had no trouble buying one last Saturday at an Apple Store. I would venture to say that Apple is not interested in Selling Out - rather, they are interested in Selling More. If the online Apple Store has sold out, all that might mean is that they allocated more units to their brick & mortar outlets, which include non-Apple vendors who undoubtedly grasped for as many iPads as they could get.

The thing that strikes me is that we have now entered the hand-me-down era of iPad marketing. I suspect that lots of kids, spouses, and siblings are coming into possession of used iPads.

I think that this might mean that Apple is crowding out its competition by occupying the low end market that lower cost tablets might otherwise sell to, and also moving into the mid-cost range with the continued sale of the 16 gig iPad2. So we have the upper end of the market occupied by The New iPad, the midrange occuppied by Last Year's iPad, and the lower end by The Handmedown iPad - which, incidentally, seems to be reselling for just a little bit more than the price of a Kindle Fire or Nook Color.

Unfortunately, if I am right about this, it seems to me to mean that Apple will not make a PursePad, since that would cannibalize the low end demand, thereby reducing the high end demand, which is where the profit margin is.

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I don't get the "oh its overpriced" argument. I'm looking to get a "PC" tablet for my husband since he's got some personal vendetta with Apple (oy) and they are just as expensive, if not more than the apple ipad.
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