Is Apple betting the farm on the new iPad (iPad3 or iPadHD or ?)? - Page 31

ilovejedd · 03-19-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyluis

Never had anyone in an apple store upsell me, never heard anyone trying to do it either when I'm in here just browsing around. I don't think this is a standard apple store policy.

It's not really a hard upsell. More like he's strongly recommending getting those models. In all fairness, though, my aunt did ask what model she should get. For a lot of folks, I do believe 32GB is the safe choice and makes for a happy medium. Alas, since my aunt would only use her iPad for web browsing, online shopping and ebook reading (Kindle app), the concern regarding storage doesn't quite apply.

For someone who's not entirely sure which model to get (and has the disposable income to shell out for higher end models), I can see how they might pay extra for something they don't need.

monkeyluis · 03-19-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovejedd

It's not really a hard upsell. More like he's strongly recommending getting those models. In all fairness, though, my aunt did ask what model she should get. For a lot of folks, I do believe 32GB is the safe choice and makes for a happy medium. Alas, since my aunt would only use her iPad for web browsing, online shopping and ebook reading (Kindle app), the concern regarding storage doesn't quite apply.

For someone who's not entirely sure which model to get (and has the disposable income to shell out for higher end models), I can see how they might pay extra for something they don't need.

Agreed. Even 16gb would suffice for her I'm sure.

heySkippy · 03-19-2012, 03:02 PM

I bought the camera kit that provides adapters for USB and an SD card for the iPad and have got almost no use from them at all. I used the card reader once to get some pictures off my camera as an experiment that that's it. Never found a use for them otherwise.

Bottom line, if there were 2 iPad models, 1 with a slot and 1 without, I wouldn't pay more for the one with a slot. Not worth it to me.

That's not to say it isn't desirable to other people, clearly it is, but I think Apple knows their audience pretty well.

ilovejedd · 03-19-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by heySkippy

That's not to say it isn't desirable to other people, clearly it is, but I think Apple knows their audience pretty well.

Yep. And they know their audience will pay the $100 step increases for memory upgrades which costs Apple $15~30. And yes, I shelled out for the 64GB iPad.

Even then, 64GB is nowhere near enough and I constantly need to juggle content. The fact that iOS 5 can randomly decide to delete content stored locally is a major concern. Not sure if all the apps I use (particularly comics apps) have been updated to handle that. I mean, I don't need the stuff backed up to iCloud but I don't want iOS suddenly deciding that it can delete something from my iPad. Still sending Viz monthly emails to release an Android app.

heySkippy · 03-19-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovejedd

The fact that iOS 5 can randomly decide to delete content stored locally is a major concern.

Wut??

monkeyluis · 03-19-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by heySkippy

Wut??

Just thought the same thing. Never happened too me. weird.

afv011 · 03-19-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovejedd

And they know their audience will pay the $100 step increases for memory upgrades which costs Apple $15~30

Probably a fraction of that; Apple is buying the chip to be soldered on the motherboard (cheaper than an SD card), and buying them by the millions, getting a nice discount.

ilovejedd · 03-19-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyluis

Just thought the same thing. Never happened too me. weird.

http://www.marco.org/2011/10/13/ios5-caches-cleaning

Apple fixed it in iOS 5.0.1 but I have some apps which don't appear to have implemented the fix. My brother's 32GB iPad 2 was down to 1.2GB free space when it suddenly went up to 7+ GB. Apparently, iOS did its cleaning thing and deleted all downloaded manga from the Viz app. I now have the unpleasant task of needing to re-download 6GB worth of purchased manga from the "cloud". Not fun particularly with the app being somewhat crash prone.

ilovejedd · 03-19-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by afv011

Probably a fraction of that; Apple is buying the chip to be soldered on the motherboard (cheaper than an SD card), and buying them by the millions, getting a nice discount.

True. And I was looking at high SLC NAND Flash pricing (16GB $13.50, 32GB $25.50). Not sure what Apple uses for the iPad. TLC and MLC are a lot cheaper.

MrsJoseph · 03-19-2012, 04:33 PM

I would love an iPad...but just for the novelty of it...and my kitchen. I'll probably never get one because I don't really don't need it.

What I would love to get is a 32gig iPhone 4. *not the 4S* I have the 16gig 4 and it was fine until my nerdy self got the iTunes U app. Suddenly I'm in college again and I find myself deleting all this music I never listen to but for some reason decided I had to have at my fingertips. But...it is also possible that have 21 lecture classes on my phone might just be overkill, too.

pdurrant · 03-19-2012, 06:03 PM

Apple wasn't betting the farm on the new iPad, but if it had been, I think it would have won.

iPad sells three million units in less than 4 days.

Belfaborac · 03-19-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyluis

That's because you haven't done any reasersch nor understand the cloud.

Way to go making baseless assumptions! Actually it isn't; it's because I have no interest in having to use clouds in order to get content onto a device.

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So let me ask you, what is it that makes an SD card so important that without it renders the iPad useless, i.e a toy in your words. Look forward to the response.

See above. Also, the built-in 16 or 32GB storage is totally insufficient (for me), so a card slot is an absolute must.

tubemonkey · 03-19-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyluis

It may not be physically be built in but I can easily use SD cards with the iPad. I also have the option to use other external storage, which is exactly what an SD card slot would bring.

Oh yeah, a dongle here and a cord there. Mustn't mess with that sleek form factor.

monkeyluis · 03-19-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Belfaborac

Way to go making baseless assumptions! Actually it isn't; it's because I have no interest in having to use clouds in order to get content onto a device.

See above. Also, the built-in 16 or 32GB storage is totally insufficient (for me), so a card slot is an absolute must.

good for you. the fact still stands that i once again corrected misinformation. ipad doesn't work for you, fine go buy a different tablet there are plenty of other great tablets out there. but if someone comes in here looking for information on an ipad & all of these haters are throwing out misinformation then i'm goimg to correct them. will it appeal to everyone, of course not, if it doesn't work for you then fine, move on. but when there are options that could satisfy them don't start saying lies just because your tablet maker of choice can't compete with 3 million sales in 1 weekend.

monkeyluis · 03-19-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Oh yeah, a dongle here and a cord there. Mustn't mess with that sleek form factor.

thats pretty funny. i wonder how well they are doing. i think i was talking about the ipad though.

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