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Pubishing consultant Mike Shatzkin weighs in the DOJ's move. He is not pleased. He games out what will happen if agancy pricing is reversed:
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Has anyone ever done a price comparison before and after Agency pricing for a specific publisher?
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I don't see "splitting the market between Amazon and B&N" to be a great improvement worth a 50% hike in consumer prices for a huge array of products. I don't see that agency pricing caused any of the split in the marketplace--the new business went to stores with wifi devices, not stores with better customer service or more detailed search engines or more personalized selection options. Quote:
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As for Fictionwise? Had they been doing all that well, they would not have sold out to BN. I'm sure that you aand others liked Fictionwise, but it's also clear that they weren't doing well enough that they felt that they could go it alone. |
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And I "vaguely" remember Google investing heavily in ebooks long before the Price Fix. They even got sued for their plans to make money off ebooks. Anybody else? Does Blio count? ![]() |
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Whats interesting is that the guys who are most in favor of ePub who are also in favor of dismantling agency pricing-which would hugely benefit Mobi's champion, Amazon.
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So... you can name two powerhouse tech companies who decided to dabble in ebooks after agency pricing went into effect, and you're calling that "diversity?" Neither Apple nor Google needs to sell ebooks to remain profitable; they can both afford their ebook sales stores to run in the red for several years while they're sorting out what to do with them. Where are the dozens of "mom-and-pop ebook" stores, the ones without a huge selection but instead a curated collection designed to appeal to a specific audience? There's an AllRomanceEbooks, which was hit hard by agency pricing... if agency pricing is *better* for bookstores, why haven't All-Mystery-Ebooks and All-SF-Ebooks sprung up in the last year? If Amazon's semi-monopoly was threatening other businesses, publishers had options other than "collude to raise prices for customers and drive smaller stores out of business." |
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Im certain that the DOJ isnt going to want an Amazon 90% share of the retail market, either. I'm betting on a modified agency pricing model coming out of this. |
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This is how I look at it also. If the publishers want to sell their books for $10-13 now, they can easily find a way to sell them for that amount in the future.
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Several software ereaders do support B&N's DRM (including a pre-release of the new ADE software), but manufacturers like Kobo and Sony have chosen not to enable support for the B&N DRM. So instead of blaming B&N, blame the ereader manufacturers for not enabling the included B&N DRM support. |
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Whether or not collusion brings any benefits to third parties (those that did not collude such as customers, ebook stores, etc.) is irrelevant. Price fixing (competitors agreeing on prices, discounts or lack thereof) is illegal conduct per se (in itself). If publishers came out with the agency model by discussing their pricing among themselves, then they violated the law period. It's a felony. All this discussion of agency model versus non-agency model is besides the point.
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