A Rooted Fire is Better Because...

wizwor · 03-13-2012, 06:43 AM

After four months, I am not hearing as much about rooting the Fire as I expected to, but there certainly are people doing it. From those of you who have to those of us who might, why should we? Please feel free to post your root process and any associated issues as well as any benefits/pitfalls associated with a rooted Fire.

beej231 · 03-13-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wizwor

After four months, I am not hearing as much about rooting the Fire as I expected to, but there certainly are people doing it. From those of you who have to those of us who might, why should we? Please feel free to post your root process and any associated issues as well as any benefits/pitfalls associated with a rooted Fire.

I did it because I like fiddling with my tech toys. It hasn't made a big difference to me except that I can get the Android Market and make wallpaper stick. I used Kindle Water so I could do it on my Mac. It does it all for you if you can get it to work. It took me a lot of tries to get it to work. I wouldn't recommend that process.

I'm not as blown away as I expected by rooting.

Ramer84015 · 03-13-2012, 08:08 AM

I did it to run rooted only apps that I've gotten used to on my android phone. Also, being able to install the Android Market makes if much easier to install my paid apps.

monkeyluis · 03-13-2012, 08:23 AM

I don't see the point. It's a great device out of the box.

tubemonkey · 03-13-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramer84015

I did it to run rooted only apps that I've gotten used to on my android phone. Also, being able to install the Android Market makes if much easier to install my paid apps.

Google's impending tablet should solve this problem.

monkeyluis · 03-13-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Google's impending tablet should solve this problem.

Wasn't ICS supposed to solve problems too.

tubemonkey · 03-13-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeyluis

Wasn't ICS supposed to solve problems too.

Beats me. My primary requirement in an Android tablet is full access to the official app store (Google Play); whether natively or via rooting. With Google about to jump into the tablet market, I'd be prone to get it over a device that requires rooting.

ApK · 03-13-2012, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeyluis

I don't see the point. It's a great device out of the box.

That's been my stand so far as well. I expected I was going to want to root it--I put Rockbox on my MP3 players, I jail-broke my daughter's iTouch--but I've not been compelled to mess with the Fire yet.

slm · 03-13-2012, 08:55 AM

The main reason for most people is to install Android Market (now Google Player), then you can unroot.

Amazon app store is nice--I use both--but much much smaller than Market. You really miss a lot by not having market.

Aside from access to more apps, it means that if you have an Android phone, you can install apps you purchased for the phone.

Jessica Lares · 03-13-2012, 09:14 AM

Probably because a lot of us just completely deleted the Amazon stuff and loaded CM7/9.

A rooted Fire is better because...

You get a better DPI range - There's something weird on the Amazon stock, once you switch over to something like CM7, it's a huge difference. Looking at the Android Market on my stock Kindle made me dizzy.

You get to use regular apps - The Kindle's bar at the bottom is EXTREMELY HUGE/unlike the typical Android bar, hence we're forced to use Kindle Fire Edition applications on stock. At the end of the day, this is the most problematic issue with compatibility with the Android Market in general.

You get to run tablet apps - Not mobile/phone editions. Big ones like

Mint.com:

Adobe Photoshop Touch:

Evernote:

We still don't have Hardware Acceleration, so we can't use things like Netflix or Google Chrome, but when we do finally have a way, it's going to blow away all the $500 tablets for sure.

ApK · 03-13-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessica Lares

We still don't have Hardware Acceleration, so we can't use things like Netflix or Google Chrome, but when we do finally have a way, it's going to blow away all the $500 tablets for sure.

Unfortunately, that's "IF" we do finally have a way. Video is really important to me, and figuring out hardware features like that is not inevitable.
Keep us informed, though. If CM9 (with it's native support for button-less devices) is every fully functional and stable, I'll probably try it.

afv011 · 03-13-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeyluis

Wasn't ICS supposed to solve problems too.

ICS was supposed to unify the phone and tablet OS-es. As such, it succeeds.

afv011 · 03-13-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessica Lares

Probably because a lot of us just completely deleted the Amazon stuff and loaded CM7/9.

A rooted Fire is better because...

You get a better DPI range - There's something weird on the Amazon stock, once you switch over to something like CM7, it's a huge difference. Looking at the Android Market on my stock Kindle made me dizzy.

You get to use regular apps - The Kindle's bar at the bottom is EXTREMELY HUGE/unlike the typical Android bar, hence we're forced to use Kindle Fire Edition applications on stock. At the end of the day, this is the most problematic issue with compatibility with the Android Market in general.

You get to run tablet apps - Not mobile/phone editions. Big ones like

Mint.com:

Adobe Photoshop Touch:

Evernote:

We still don't have Hardware Acceleration, so we can't use things like Netflix or Google Chrome, but when we do finally have a way, it's going to blow away all the $500 tablets for sure.

I think another reason is access to apps that will only work if you're rooted, like Titanium Backup, DrolidWall, RootExplorer, AdAway and so on.

robertc88 · 03-13-2012, 11:49 AM

I would not be surprised if the first kf does not get ics what with a new device forthcoming. And time flies so if it drags any longer why bother with jelly bean coming.

We will see what happens but I thought we would hear something by now with ics on the first kf but it is not much different with the wait others are experiencing also.

osnova · 03-13-2012, 12:48 PM

I've rooted, added Market and unrooted (to get Amazon Video back).

03-13-2012, 06:43 AM	#1
wizwor Wizard Posts: 1,068 Karma: 23867385 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kindle, fire	A Rooted Fire is Better Because... After four months, I am not hearing as much about rooting the Fire as I expected to, but there certainly are people doing it. From those of you who have to those of us who might, why should we? Please feel free to post your root process and any associated issues as well as any benefits/pitfalls associated with a rooted Fire.

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Ramer84015 Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle Fire	I did it to run rooted only apps that I've gotten used to on my android phone. Also, being able to install the Android Market makes if much easier to install my paid apps.

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monkeyluis Banned Posts: 725 Karma: 656644 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Central Florida Device: iPad "3", Kindle Touch, Kindle Fire, iPhone 4S	I don't see the point. It's a great device out of the box.

03-13-2012, 08:55 AM	#9
slm Fool Posts: 468 Karma: 4113712 Join Date: Feb 2003 Device: Kindle: Voyage,PW1,KOA, Kobo: Clara Colour, Nook GLP, Pocketbook verse	The main reason for most people is to install Android Market (now Google Player), then you can unroot. Amazon app store is nice--I use both--but much much smaller than Market. You really miss a lot by not having market. Aside from access to more apps, it means that if you have an Android phone, you can install apps you purchased for the phone.

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Jessica Lares Wizard Posts: 2,240 Karma: 5759170 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Near Dallas, Texas, USA Device: iPad Mini, iPod Touch (5th gen)	Probably because a lot of us just completely deleted the Amazon stuff and loaded CM7/9. A rooted Fire is better because... You get a better DPI range - There's something weird on the Amazon stock, once you switch over to something like CM7, it's a huge difference. Looking at the Android Market on my stock Kindle made me dizzy. You get to use regular apps - The Kindle's bar at the bottom is EXTREMELY HUGE/unlike the typical Android bar, hence we're forced to use Kindle Fire Edition applications on stock. At the end of the day, this is the most problematic issue with compatibility with the Android Market in general. You get to run tablet apps - Not mobile/phone editions. Big ones like Mint.com: Adobe Photoshop Touch: Evernote: We still don't have Hardware Acceleration, so we can't use things like Netflix or Google Chrome, but when we do finally have a way, it's going to blow away all the $500 tablets for sure.

03-13-2012, 11:49 AM	#14
robertc88 Fanatic Posts: 555 Karma: 1579999 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: none	I would not be surprised if the first kf does not get ics what with a new device forthcoming. And time flies so if it drags any longer why bother with jelly bean coming. We will see what happens but I thought we would hear something by now with ics on the first kf but it is not much different with the wait others are experiencing also.

03-13-2012, 12:48 PM	#15
osnova Kindler of the Flame Posts: 582 Karma: 646016 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: US of A Device: K DX,3,KT,KP,KF, KFHD; Nook C, PRS600, iPad, Xoom, N900, N810, Zaurus	I've rooted, added Market and unrooted (to get Amazon Video back).