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I think it's kind of disingenuous to maintain that agency pricing hurts small and medium sized retailers . On the contrary, those are the ones who are most in favor of agency pricing. They see Amazon's biggest advantage as its ability to undercut their prices while remaining in business because they make their money selling other stuff. No more talk please of why small retailers would do better going up against Amazon without agency pricing. THEY don't see it that way and never have.
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Another article of interest for those wanting to read more.
http://gigaom.com/2012/03/08/doj-war...e-coming-down/ |
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The sun might go nova, tomorrow; or it might not. Anybody can postulate anything that might happen. Or not. Now, *you* may think the publishers are golden but, apparently, the DOJ staff of lawyers begs to differ. Apparently, *they* think that 5 publishers and one retailer conspiring to fix and *raise* prices, for *whatever* declared reason, are breaking the law. And, let's face it: the opinion that matters is the DOJ's because they're the ones getting ready to file antitrust charges on the basis of the *evidence* they have, which includes testimony and documents from all the relevant players. (Have you seen them? I'd love to see them myself.) The ball is the DOJ's hands, they make the call now. |
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It is not only the US DOJ either. The EU is also looking at agency pricing in detail as well.
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Now the DOJ doesn't buy that argument but the supremes have bought a similar argument in the past. Frankly the thought of an Amazon that dominates the market gives me pause. They would control book prices and be able to dictate terms to publishers and authors alike. Maybe the court might see it that way too. In any case I'm glad I don't have to make that choice. I see shades of grey here not pure, baby Jesus innocent Amazon against Satanic publishers. |
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The ability to create their own unique discount systems (Fictionwise's Micropay for instance) was one of the only things that small ebook-only retailers had going for them. They could reward their loyal customers with special discounts to keep them coming back. Agency pricing took that ability away from them (and others like them) and it gutted their business. They simply can't compete selling agency published books anymore without those loyalty discount systems. So they don't sell agency books anymore. So no more talk please of how agency pricing was all unicorns and rainbows for everyone except Amazon. Agency pricing threw a lot of babies out with the bathwater. ![]() |
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It's possible, but they tried windowing before and stopped because it didn't work.
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Actually, if they had instituted this pricing for ALL books, I wouldn't have loved it and I still would have bought fewer books, but I wouldn't have stopped buying ANY books because it would at least be "fair" (in terms of it being applied to all readers, not just readers who prefer to read digital copies). Last edited by FizzyWater; 03-11-2012 at 01:19 AM. Reason: noticed a typo |
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I've seen most of Bujold's backlist on Fictionwise (before they were bought..), at least, the part from Baen. |
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Secondly the agency pricing model can be modified to allow for those kinds of discounts and probably will be as part of a settlement. My point is not that agency pricing is unicorns and rain bows. I prefer lower prices in short term just as much as any consumer. My point is that the other side has a reasonable argument to make as well. |
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