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Old 03-02-2012, 07:17 PM   #121
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Why? Other than fulfilling some communist ideal of yours.
Giggleton is saving up to move to North Korea, where everyone is so happy and free.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:35 PM   #122
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Your paycheck is pretty intangible as well, often not even printed on paper but uploaded to the network. Should I have access to that?

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Did I hear paycheck? Why would anybody think he is working?
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:38 PM   #123
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We are going to have to create this world, and it will probably take some time.
No, we don't have to create this world. We don't have to create a world where authors write for nothing, where farmers farm for nothing, where engineers build for nothing, just so you can DO nothing.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:41 PM   #124
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Old 03-03-2012, 03:35 AM   #125
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No, we don't have to create this world. We don't have to create a world where authors write for nothing, where farmers farm for nothing, where engineers build for nothing, just so you can DO nothing.
We will create this world so that NO ONE HAS TO DO ANYTHING THAT THEY DO NOT WISH TO.
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:21 AM   #126
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Old 03-03-2012, 08:05 AM   #127
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We will create this world so that NO ONE HAS TO DO ANYTHING THAT THEY DO NOT WISH TO.
A world where you do onto others because they can't pay you back in kind. What a wonderful place...
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Old 03-03-2012, 08:28 AM   #128
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This thread's more entertaining than most sitcoms.

And Giggles...? Did you just raise your voice in anger (all caps)? I think that's the first time I've ever seen you react even slightly emotionally to a lowly human's posts. There's hope for you yet. Cast off that yoke of idealistic, pie-in-the-sky, slacker-hipster servitude! There is no Matrix, Neo. Time to wake up and put on a tie.
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Old 03-03-2012, 09:26 AM   #129
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We will create this world so that NO ONE HAS TO DO ANYTHING THAT THEY DO NOT WISH TO.
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I'm in mate.
The quicker you get into these schemes the higher up the pyramid you are.
Who do we have to knock off first?
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Old 03-03-2012, 11:13 AM   #130
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We will create this world so that NO ONE HAS TO DO ANYTHING THAT THEY DO NOT WISH TO.
Who is this "we" you speak of? And you contradict yourself. You claim that you want to create a world where no one has to do anything they do not wish to do.

Yet you demand that authors do something they do not wish to do. You demand that they offer their books for free.

If authors can't make a living from writing, they are a lot less likely to write. If farmers can't sell their crops, they aren't going to farm.

It might be nice not to be able to do anything, to just take whatever you want for free. The only problem is that someone has to work to produce those things.
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Old 03-03-2012, 12:51 PM   #131
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It might be nice not to be able to do anything, to just take whatever you want for free. The only problem is that someone has to work to produce those things.
It would be nice if people did what they liked to do and offered everything they produced to anyone who wanted it.

Authors definitely need to eat, just like farmers. But it seems that the copyright system is built as a protection against those who would take advantage of anothers work. In other words, it is curing the symptom, not the disease. The disease being the meme consisting of the idea that it is ok to reward yourself financially from anothers work.

By taking away the possibility of selling, the meme would eventually die.
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Who would do the jobs that nobody wants to do?
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It would be nice if people did what they liked to do and offered everything they produced to anyone who wanted it.
And receive nothing back in trade? Why would anyone produce more than what they need for themselves and their immediate family?
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Finally we can agree! No one should ever be forced to give their books away for free, EVER.

Unless you mean.......
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Who would do the jobs that nobody wants to do?
Robots?
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