Getting Kindle book from library to Kindle for PC

[pidgeon92]

Yes, it is true about the Penguin books. I just tried it for one....

Here is a snippet from an Amazon help page:

Due to publisher restrictions, some titles may not be wirelessly delivered to your device and instead require USB transfer from your computer to your device. These restricted titles also may not be accessed on Kindle reading applications.

I will send an email to the Philly library letting them know that the information on the Penguin books is incorrect:

[gracie]

Well, the book was "Dauntless" by Jack Campbell. The publisher appears to be "Ace", which I don't know if it's part of Penguin or what....

As far as the person that says "just check it out in epub"......... IF IT HAD BEEN AVAILABLE IN EPUB I WOULD HAVE. Kindle format is way down the list of my choice.

And although I probably explained it oddly, the REASON not being able to get the book means I don't buy the books is that the way I usually try new series I'm not familiar with is to get one (hopefully the FIRST one) and read it. If I like it, I usually buy the rest of the series so I have them when I'm in the mood to read 'em. Since I wasn't able to get the first one downloaded, I'm less likely to buy the rest - in this case not only because I couldn't try the first one but ALSO 'cause the publisher is a large, malodorous pile of excrement in my opinion and isn't going to get any money. I'm not too happy with Amazon either...

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by gracie

Well, the book was "Dauntless" by Jack Campbell. The publisher appears to be "Ace", which I don't know if it's part of Penguin or what...

Yes, Ace is one of Penguin's "labels".

[gracie]

OK, something's changed since yesterday... Where before, on Amazon there was the regular box that said "download book" or whatever, NOW there's a DIFFERENT BOX that says:

"Due to publisher restrictions, this book cannot be delivered wirelessly and must be downloaded and transferred via USB. You currently have no devices registered that support transferring via USB. " I can't select any of my "Kindle apps" and download.

So, regardless of what the library entry for the download says, apparently Penguin - and I found a reference that the Lost Fleet series is indeed Penguin - has done their best to screw everybody that wants to try the series from the library. And I just confirmed they still don't list an epub version.

I did find a whole bunch of sites that show the first book as a free epub download, but I presume they're actually pirate sites so I was reluctant to mess with them.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by nynaevelan

Really, none of my library loans has ever shown up in my archives on my k4pc. Are these Amazon Prime library loans??

I do have two expired Kindle library loans showing up in thr archive section of KindleForPC.

[Joykins]

Originally Posted by gracie

Well, the book was "Dauntless" by Jack Campbell. The publisher appears to be "Ace", which I don't know if it's part of Penguin or what....

As far as the person that says "just check it out in epub"......... IF IT HAD BEEN AVAILABLE IN EPUB I WOULD HAVE. Kindle format is way down the list of my choice.

I said "epub or pdf" since you said it was available in pdf.

I can recommend that series, by the way. It's good. Although I read it before I had an ereader.

And although I probably explained it oddly, the REASON not being able to get the book means I don't buy the books is that the way I usually try new series I'm not familiar with is to get one (hopefully the FIRST one) and read it. If I like it, I usually buy the rest of the series so I have them when I'm in the mood to read 'em. Since I wasn't able to get the first one downloaded, I'm less likely to buy the rest - in this case not only because I couldn't try the first one but ALSO 'cause the publisher is a large, malodorous pile of excrement in my opinion and isn't going to get any money. I'm not too happy with Amazon either...

I agree with you this is awful. I don't see any reason to exclude kindle apps from lending, if they are going to lend to the kindle platform at all.

However, if you did check it out as pdf you could read it on a PC using ADE. Not ideal, but possible. Most of my early Overdrive checkouts were pdfs I read on my laptop. I always got annoyed when I had to leave the laptop to, say, go to work or go to the bathroom and had to stop reading.

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by Joykins

However, if you did check it out as pdf you could read it on a PC using ADE. Not ideal, but possible.

Or on the Nook Color itself (at least I think I remember her Nook was rooted) with about half a dozen different apps (Mantano, BlueFire, Aldiko, etc.) although not as ideal as an ePub would have been.

I second it being a good series.

[Joykins]

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Or on the Nook Color itself (at least I think I remember her Nook was rooted) with about half a dozen different apps (Mantano, BlueFire, Aldiko, etc.) although not as ideal as an ePub would have been.

I second it being a good series.

IIRC you don't even have to root a nook color to get a decent pdf reader on it. As long as ADE recognizes it, a nook color ought to read a pdf just fine.

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by Joykins

IIRC you don't even have to root a nook color to get a decent pdf reader on it. As long as ADE recognizes it, a nook color ought to read a pdf just fine.

That's true, it will read DRM'd PDF's unrooted, I just seem to remember Gracie saying hers was rooted.

[Joykins]

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

That's true, it will read DRM'd PDF's unrooted, I just seem to remember Gracie saying hers was rooted.

If it's similar to the original nook root, it should still have the original firmware as well sort of in a partition. I know ADE DRM recognizes this firmware. I don't know about the other apps being usable with a DRM'd pdf.

[pidgeon92]

So... here is the email I sent to the Philly library:

With the new Penguin restrictions on Kindle ebooks, borrowed ebooks must be transferred to the Kindle device via USB. This cannot be done with the various free Kindle apps, like Kindle for PC, Kindle for iPad, etc. Thus, borrowed Penguin ebooks cannot be read on "free Kindle apps," as indicated on the Kindle version of High Fidelity. You might wish to strike the "free Kindle apps" notation from your Penguin holdings.

...and... here is the reply I just received:

The new Penguin regulations are new, and there has been some debate as to whether the titles would work with apps. I'm sure our vendor is aware of the issue.

So, a basic non-answer.

[dkperez]

Yes, my Nook color is rooted, and I have a bunch of readers on it. Somewhere in the back of my mind was that as a tablet running Kindle, it would be regarded as a legitimate "Kindle", and thus avoid the <I'm running out of non-vulgar ways to describe what Penguin is doing> "limitation"... Apparently, NOT.

I FINALLY found the missing book - it IS in my cart, but it's NOT shown in the cart when you go through the section of Overdrive (at least at the FLP) where I'd normally see the book. I had to signed back in, and if I go through my account area, ALL my currently checked out books show up... Unfortunately, since as far as the library is concerned I've got the Kindle book, it won't let me switch and get the pdf.

So, I CAN try to download again.

But with the tablet not working, this whole thing makes even LESS sense than it did... It'd be like going to a gas station and being told, "No, you can't buy gas, we ONLY sell to people with Fords, and your car is a Buick." What exactly is Penguin trying to accomplish? Do they think pirates don't have a Kindle to steal a book with if they want? What's the goal of this bizarre (there, I found one last descriptive word) limitation?

And, BTW, Y'all are killing me! QUIT telling me the series is good, 'cause now I REALLY want to read it and I can't because I'm so THOROUGHLY disgusted with Penguin that I'm absolutely NOT going to give them any money. I've already written the author to let him know, and once I find an email address for someone high enough to live in a room with a door (not some worthless, level 1 CSR) I'll send them a little note too.

[Joykins]

I think at this point your best bet to read/borrow is to return it and then place it on hold again, then when you get a chance, check it out as a pdf. Unless you want to buy an old broken kindle and use its PID as recommended above.

I actually own this series in dtb...I picked 'em up cheap when Borders was doing their going out of business 80% off sale...

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by pidgeon92

So... here is the email I sent to the Philly library:

With the new Penguin restrictions on Kindle ebooks, borrowed ebooks must be transferred to the Kindle device via USB. This cannot be done with the various free Kindle apps, like Kindle for PC, Kindle for iPad, etc. Thus, borrowed Penguin ebooks cannot be read on "free Kindle apps," as indicated on the Kindle version of High Fidelity. You might wish to strike the "free Kindle apps" notation from your Penguin holdings.

Just to clarify; Penguin ebooks can be read on Kindle apps, if there's a Kindle device on the account.

[pidgeon92]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Just to clarify; Penguin ebooks can be read on Kindle apps, if there's a Kindle device on the account.

Interesting. How can it be transferred?