Do you misrepresent your address to buy ebooks? - Page 3

spindlegirl · 02-22-2012, 09:04 PM

I've read blog posts of people who get their USA friends to buy the book on their behalf and send it to them.

caleb72 · 02-22-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by melmac

Also as with anywhere where you are not truthful in your account you must free your books as soon as you purchase them as the day may come when you get locked out.

I liberate all my books as a matter of course anyway. My own obsessive insurance policy.

calibrated · 02-22-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by caleb72

I liberate all my books as a matter of course anyway. My own obsessive insurance policy.

And a wise one, too.

sabredog · 02-22-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by caleb72

I liberate all my books as a matter of course anyway. My own obsessive insurance policy.

Absolutely. I have been burnt badly not doing that in the past.

ProfCrash · 02-22-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

How do you fake your address when the address you put in has to match the address the credit card is registered with?

You use gift cards. No address required.

JSWolf · 02-22-2012, 09:23 PM

How easy is this address faking easy to do in the UK?

ProfCrash · 02-22-2012, 09:25 PM

I have read that it is very easy. The process is suppose to work the same as it does in the US.

VicLavigne · 02-22-2012, 10:17 PM

Living in the US, you wouldn't think we'd need to do this. But there's certainly ebooks available in the UK that are not available in the US, so a big YES, I'm guilty of faking addresses. Bought about 9 ebooks from the UK that were absolutely not available in the US.

melmac · 02-22-2012, 10:29 PM

Hmmmm I haven't tried with the UK but would like to, often the Amazon UK daily deal is a really good one.

plib · 02-22-2012, 11:37 PM

The Onion Ring

Specifically - The Browser

BuddyBoy · 02-23-2012, 12:38 AM

I would if I had to, but I'm lucky in that I have addresses and credit cards in both Canada and the USA.

When I was in law school, I needed a textbook from Amazon.co.uk, which was available as an ebook from ebooks.com, but with UK geo restrictions. In the end I went with the paper copy, but probably wouldn't now. (Too many books, too little room!)

Kumabjorn · 02-23-2012, 01:49 AM

Wonder when the first author affected by geo-restrictions will write a thank you note in this thread?

murg · 02-23-2012, 07:33 AM

Faking your address to get around geo-restriction is not fraud.

The publisher restricts the seller from selling outside of their geo area. If the seller is unwilling to spend the money to enforce these restrictions, it is between the seller and the publisher.

As all transactions on the internet take place using electronic payments, the sellers can ensure that they only sell to payers in the right geo areas.

murraypaul · 02-23-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

How do you fake your address when the address you put in has to match the address the credit card is registered with?

a) Use a virtual credit card that will verify any address
b) Don't use a credit card, use gift cards

vice-versa · 02-23-2012, 08:59 AM

I can't vote, I don't feel wrong not to cheat with my address, but I don't. It makes me mad not being able to buy a book, but not to the point of cheating. If publishers/authors don't want/need my money, so it's their problem, not mine. I'll read something else

so much books, so little time... The moment publishers/authors will understand that, piracy will drop I think... I read paperbooks before I bought my ereader, and bought them. Now, I buy my ebooks, but, if there is only one or two in a serie available as ebook, I'll read none in the serie, if there are geographical restrictions, I just don't buy : they musn't need my money, that's all...

View Poll Results: Do you misrepresent your address to buy ebooks?
Yes, for every purchase	6	4.72%
Yes, when the ebook is not available in my country	38	29.92%
Yes, to get a better price	10	7.87%
No, I've never needed to, but would if necessary	65	51.18%
No, I feel this is wrong	15	11.81%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 127. You may not vote on this poll

02-23-2012, 08:59 AM	#45
vice-versa whippet addict Posts: 391 Karma: 689884 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: France, Normandy, Gisors Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Libra Colour	I can't vote, I don't feel wrong not to cheat with my address, but I don't. It makes me mad not being able to buy a book, but not to the point of cheating. If publishers/authors don't want/need my money, so it's their problem, not mine. I'll read something else so much books, so little time... The moment publishers/authors will understand that, piracy will drop I think... I read paperbooks before I bought my ereader, and bought them. Now, I buy my ebooks, but, if there is only one or two in a serie available as ebook, I'll read none in the serie, if there are geographical restrictions, I just don't buy : they musn't need my money, that's all... Last edited by vice-versa; 02-23-2012 at 09:02 AM.

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spindlegirl Wizard Posts: 1,594 Karma: 21245891 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra h20, Paperwhite 2017, Phone & Tablet w Moonreader	I've read blog posts of people who get their USA friends to buy the book on their behalf and send it to them.

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02-22-2012, 09:25 PM	#37
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I have read that it is very easy. The process is suppose to work the same as it does in the US.

02-22-2012, 10:17 PM	#38
VicLavigne e-reading since 2008 Posts: 197 Karma: 112730 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hinesville Georgia Device: Nook STR, Sony PRS-T1	Living in the US, you wouldn't think we'd need to do this. But there's certainly ebooks available in the UK that are not available in the US, so a big YES, I'm guilty of faking addresses. Bought about 9 ebooks from the UK that were absolutely not available in the US.

02-22-2012, 10:29 PM	#39
melmac Wizard Posts: 1,399 Karma: 5573651 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Perth AU Device: Sony PRS650, Sony T3, Kobo Forma	Hmmmm I haven't tried with the UK but would like to, often the Amazon UK daily deal is a really good one.

02-22-2012, 11:37 PM	#40
plib Guru Posts: 777 Karma: 6356004 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kobo Touch	The Onion Ring Specifically - The Browser

02-23-2012, 12:38 AM	#41
BuddyBoy eBookin' Fool Posts: 310 Karma: 1008360 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Device: Kindle Paperwhite, KK, iPad (Ex Prs 505, 500, Reb1100-2150, Rocket)	I would if I had to, but I'm lucky in that I have addresses and credit cards in both Canada and the USA. When I was in law school, I needed a textbook from Amazon.co.uk, which was available as an ebook from ebooks.com, but with UK geo restrictions. In the end I went with the paper copy, but probably wouldn't now. (Too many books, too little room!)

02-23-2012, 01:49 AM	#42
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	Wonder when the first author affected by geo-restrictions will write a thank you note in this thread?

02-23-2012, 07:33 AM	#43
murg No Comment Posts: 3,240 Karma: 23878043 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Australia Device: Kobo: Not just an eReader, it's an adventure!	Faking your address to get around geo-restriction is not fraud. The publisher restricts the seller from selling outside of their geo area. If the seller is unwilling to spend the money to enforce these restrictions, it is between the seller and the publisher. As all transactions on the internet take place using electronic payments, the sellers can ensure that they only sell to payers in the right geo areas.