Would you......

Lobolover · 06-09-2008, 04:54 PM

First question:

If you'd manage to find an etext/file of THAT story/book you couldnt find in any library or bookstore anywhere,and was searching for it on the net for years-would you download it,even if the legality of the site hosting it would b questionable?

Be honest,guys.

Over · 06-09-2008, 05:11 PM

So, you're talking about a book out of print and very hard to find? I guess I would, although it wouldn't be right. Just because the book isn't available, that doesn't mean it won't be in a near future or that the copyright owner hasn't plans for it in the future.

It's a tough call, but I would get it if I really wanted it.

RickyMaveety · 06-09-2008, 06:11 PM

I would, no question. However, I would also purchase a legal copy as soon as it came out. I've gone that route before (with music and the purchase of individual songs) and would do it again in a heartbeat.

badgoodDeb · 06-09-2008, 06:29 PM

Wouldn't one have to be at least marginally willing do copy it --- to have found it in the first place? You have to be searching for such a thing, to find it. Although you could have been searching for legal copies when you stumbled across a questionable copy, I guess.

vivaldirules · 06-09-2008, 06:51 PM

Lobolover, are chumming hoping to snag people who will help you rationalize downloading pirated ebooks? I'm not taking that bait.

Lobolover · 06-10-2008, 02:36 AM

not realy,considering ive no e-reader.

RickyMaveety · 06-10-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Wouldn't one have to be at least marginally willing do copy it --- to have found it in the first place? You have to be searching for such a thing, to find it. Although you could have been searching for legal copies when you stumbled across a questionable copy, I guess.

Yep .... that's exactly how it usually happens to me. I try to find the thing (book, music, whatever) can't find it at the store, so it's either make the thing myself -- or grab a pirated version. And, yes ... there are some books that I love enough that I've actually typed the whole damn thing so that I could carry it with me in digital format. Never tried to sell the copy to anyone ... so I guess that makes me a pirate without a purpose.

Arrrrgh, matey.

GeoffC · 06-10-2008, 03:24 PM

If I've already got a paper copy and am eager to get same on my e-reader, I might be tempted to scan/OCR/etc myself - but I'd have to be desperate considering the amount of work involved.
As to a net illegal - doubt it...

Cthulhu · 06-10-2008, 10:12 PM

Yes.

With these provisos:

I contacted every possible person I could at the publisher, and was rebuffed.
I contacted the author, or tried to, and was a second time rebuffed or unanswered.

Another member posited that there is a certain illegality in charging people for the same content over and over again (e.g. LP, 8-Track, Cassette, CD, mp3) and whether we as consumers are fools to have done so.

Sadly, I can see that this could easily devolve into a useless debate about copyright, Digital Rights Management Software, and the alleged evils of Corporate culture.

LoboLover:

The truly odd thing about your post is that you move so quickly from searching for a physical copy to it jumping to a digital one. However, if a text is that important to you, go ahead and download it, then pledge $100 to the fascists at RIAA to quiet your conscience. ;-

Lobolover · 06-11-2008, 05:22 AM

I'd do it,if found,problem is thre nowhere to be found.Damn,HPL archive,you couldnt wait a few hours ,could you ?

RickyMaveety · 06-13-2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobolover

I'd do it,if found,problem is thre nowhere to be found.Damn,HPL archive,you couldnt wait a few hours ,could you ?

Well, that made absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

06-09-2008, 04:54 PM	#1
Lobolover Gorosei Posts: 421 Karma: 334 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Microsoft Word	Would you...... First question: If you'd manage to find an etext/file of THAT story/book you couldnt find in any library or bookstore anywhere,and was searching for it on the net for years-would you download it,even if the legality of the site hosting it would b questionable? Be honest,guys.

06-09-2008, 05:11 PM	#2
Over Wizard Posts: 1,462 Karma: 6061516 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cascais, Portugal Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2", OnePlus 6	So, you're talking about a book out of print and very hard to find? I guess I would, although it wouldn't be right. Just because the book isn't available, that doesn't mean it won't be in a near future or that the copyright owner hasn't plans for it in the future. It's a tough call, but I would get it if I really wanted it.

06-09-2008, 06:11 PM	#3
RickyMaveety Holy S**T!!! Posts: 5,213 Karma: 108401 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego, California!! Device: Kindle and iPad	I would, no question. However, I would also purchase a legal copy as soon as it came out. I've gone that route before (with music and the purchase of individual songs) and would do it again in a heartbeat.

06-09-2008, 06:29 PM	#4
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,567 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	Wouldn't one have to be at least marginally willing do copy it --- to have found it in the first place? You have to be searching for such a thing, to find it. Although you could have been searching for legal copies when you stumbled across a questionable copy, I guess.

06-09-2008, 06:51 PM	#5
vivaldirules When's Doughnut Day? Posts: 10,059 Karma: 13675475 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, TX, US Device: Sony PRS-505, iPad	Lobolover, are chumming hoping to snag people who will help you rationalize downloading pirated ebooks? I'm not taking that bait.

06-10-2008, 02:36 AM	#6
Lobolover Gorosei Posts: 421 Karma: 334 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Microsoft Word	not realy,considering ive no e-reader.

06-10-2008, 03:24 PM	#8
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	If I've already got a paper copy and am eager to get same on my e-reader, I might be tempted to scan/OCR/etc myself - but I'd have to be desperate considering the amount of work involved. As to a net illegal - doubt it...

06-10-2008, 10:12 PM	#9
Cthulhu Technologist Posts: 488 Karma: 585237 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I'm between Cities Device: SONY Reader PRS-500	Yes. With these provisos: I contacted every possible person I could at the publisher, and was rebuffed. I contacted the author, or tried to, and was a second time rebuffed or unanswered. Another member posited that there is a certain illegality in charging people for the same content over and over again (e.g. LP, 8-Track, Cassette, CD, mp3) and whether we as consumers are fools to have done so. Sadly, I can see that this could easily devolve into a useless debate about copyright, Digital Rights Management Software, and the alleged evils of Corporate culture. LoboLover: The truly odd thing about your post is that you move so quickly from searching for a physical copy to it jumping to a digital one. However, if a text is that important to you, go ahead and download it, then pledge $100 to the fascists at RIAA to quiet your conscience. ;-

06-11-2008, 05:22 AM	#10
Lobolover Gorosei Posts: 421 Karma: 334 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Microsoft Word	I'd do it,if found,problem is thre nowhere to be found.Damn,HPL archive,you couldnt wait a few hours ,could you ?