Penguin ends library/Overdrive relationship starting tomorrow

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by MrsJoseph

Honestly I think that if Overdrive stopped playing footsie with Amazon, this problem could be solved easier.

Hopefully 3M will step into the breach and create contracts that will not allow 3rd party retailers access to library patron private information.

I like Amazon in the mix. Penguin resents the competition.

[MrsJoseph]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

I like Amazon in the mix. Penguin resents the competition.

I don't need Amazon killing off the competition. Capitalism needs competition to survive. I need MORE competition for Amazon and publishers - not less.

[Joykins]

Originally Posted by anamardoll

So does anyone know how an indie can get their book for sale on Overdrive? Maybe the indies can pick up the void that Penguin is trying to make?

I've seen a lot of indie stuff on Overdrive, especially if you consider "indie" anything not Agency 6.

[MrsJoseph]

Originally Posted by Joykins

I've seen a lot of indie stuff on Overdrive, especially if you consider "indie" anything not Agency 6.

What about pushing through Smashwords first. Do they have access?

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by MrsJoseph

I don't need Amazon killing off the competition. Capitalism needs competition to survive. I need MORE competition for Amazon and publishers - not less.

Then it's up to the competition to move into the digital age. Paper is so yesterday.

[cjr72]

Originally Posted by calibrated

Let's face it: the publishers would have been happier had the concept of a library never existed, and would have killed public libraries off long ago if they'd been able to. Now that e-book lending is here, they're doing their d***edest to kill it before it becomes too entrenched. They might even succeed, but if they do, it will be replaced by something even more antithetical to their interests--piracy. They may win the battle, but they'll lose the war.

I agree and it's becoming more and more obvious that they wish e-books didn't exist. The ability to distribute and get paper books on store shelves was the linchpin to large publishers' gatekeeper status. The ease with which e-books can be distributed erodes that leverage.

[MrsJoseph]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Then it's up to the competition to move into the digital age. Paper is so yesterday.

Paper has nothing to do with Amazon being involved in my local activities. As a business person - I can see how that gives Amazon an unfair advantage. YOU maybe ok with sharing that intimate information with Amazon - but consumers should have the option to opt out. It's a business killing model for all Amazon competitors...and when the ish hits the fan and Amazon's prices go up...there won't be anyone around (with maybe a few exceptions) to push back.

Of course, you won't care because you feel comfortable with Amazon in your bedroom.

[Joykins]

Originally Posted by MrsJoseph

Of course, you won't care because you feel comfortable with Amazon in your bedroom.

Come on, where else can you check out library books, get discount diaper delivery, watch authors give their books 10 5-star reviews, AND buy sex toys?

[MrsJoseph]

Originally Posted by Joykins

Come on, where else can you check out library books, get discount diaper delivery, watch authors give their books 10 5-star reviews, AND buy sex toys?

LOL!

Ok, I need a moment to catch my breath

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by MrsJoseph

Of course, you won't care because you feel comfortable with Amazon in your bedroom.

wait a sec, let me look.

(tick, tick, tick) Well I'll be danged, Amazon was there. I found Jeff hiding under my bed, so I kicked him out. No more Amazon in my bedroom. Thanks for the tip.

[RDaneel54]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

wait a sec, let me look.

(tick, tick, tick) Well I'll be danged, Amazon was there. I found Jeff hiding under my bed, so I kicked him out. No more Amazon in my bedroom. Thanks for the tip.

I'd be scared if I found an Amazon in my bedroom. Very militaristic women.

Oh wait, Amazon, I get it. Nevermind.

[CyGuy]

Originally Posted by MrsJoseph

Of course, you won't care because you feel comfortable with Amazon in your bedroom.

I personally would never own a reader device that was remotely accessible by a third party (cell phone be damned). After the whole 1984 fiasco, any Amazon reader was off the table for me. I was shocked at how little outrage there was about the 1984 ebook being remotely deleted. Sure some people whined about it a little, but no one was freaked out by the fact that Amazon had this ability. That was so huge, just WOW huge. They can reach into your bedroom and take your personal property and not even have to answer for it. Someone should have gone to prison for that one...

[Sydney's Mom]

I was enraged by that, but just quietly started backing up all my books and leaving my wireless off. Much easier than tilting at windmills (although that is more noble).

[tubemonkey]

I have Animal Farm / 1984 on my Kindle. So far, Amazon hasn't taken the bait.

[MrsJoseph]

Originally Posted by CyGuy

I personally would never own a reader device that was remotely accessible by a third party (cell phone be damned). After the whole 1984 fiasco, any Amazon reader was off the table for me. I was shocked at how little outrage there was about the 1984 ebook being remotely deleted. Sure some people whined about it a little, but no one was freaked out by the fact that Amazon had this ability. That was so huge, just WOW huge. They can reach into your bedroom and take your personal property and not even have to answer for it. Someone should have gone to prison for that one...

A lot of people have a very casual attitude towards Amazon - and they will until Amazon does something people doesn't like.

My issue isn't just the remote accessibility - its their desire to have access to every stage of my consumption process. TM might be ok with Amazon accessing his library data points - but my privacy concerns skyrocketed.

In addition to that - while I may not like or agree with 99.99% of publisher activity...I can't deny their common sense when dealing with Amazon.

I do not want my information crossed over and I do not want Amazon in my library activities - and Amazon effectively lost a sale of a new kindle. I was going to purchase for my grandma...but I'm tired of feeding the bloodsucking monster.

So she'll end up with a different reader not attached to Amazon. And I've put my money where my mouth is.

What surprises me is that whenever any company takes any action to stave off Amazon...people get up in arms. HOW DARE THEY! *gasp* Penguin and B&N are the devil!!

But what about Amazon?? WHY should Amazon have access to information that Kobo, Sony, B&N, BAEN, S&S, Hachette, Penguin, etc does not? WHAT makes Amazon such a special little snowflake that they deserve that kind of detailed activity that their competitors do not have access to??