Publishers Preference Poll

CJJ · 02-10-2012, 12:58 PM

With all of the posturing of publishers in regards to ebooks and their willingness or unwillingness to sell ebooks to Libraries; I thought a poll on the affect this has on consumer sentiment might be interesting.

CyGuy · 02-10-2012, 01:48 PM

I vote for option 5: Publishers should have no say what-so-ever in whether a particular ebook is available from a library. The library should simply purchase X copies of the ebook from wherever and loan them out as usual.

Giggleton · 02-10-2012, 01:50 PM

I like the idea of libraries obtaining a copy of every book published/uploaded. Publishers should have no say concerning our access to knowledge.

Falcao · 02-10-2012, 01:51 PM

You need another option: "I pirate all my books so I don't really care about publishers attitudes towards Libraries"

CJJ · 02-10-2012, 02:17 PM

You are right. I should have. But I was trying to think of what options we currently have.
But both of you have expressed, I would hope, the sentiments of most readers.

"I vote for option 5: Publishers should have no say what-so-ever in whether a particular ebook is available from a library. The library should simply purchase X copies of the ebook from wherever and loan them out as usual."

"I like the idea of libraries obtaining a copy of every book published/uploaded. Publishers should have no say concerning our access to knowledge."

DiapDealer · 02-10-2012, 02:26 PM

I will purchase the books I want to own and borrow (or do without) the rest; with basically zero knowledge of who the publisher of the book might be.

spindlegirl · 02-10-2012, 02:42 PM

Since every single physical and e-book purchase is completely dependent on my loving it after using it at the library, then I voted for option 1. But option 5 is also relevant.

I let the public library advertise books to me, because they let me read them for free (unless for physical books we are late returning), and then if there is a book I cannot live without owning, I then put it on my target list for "books to look for good deals".

spindlegirl · 02-10-2012, 03:16 PM

SPEAKING of which......

"Penguin pulls out of OverDrive, stops ebook sales to libraries"

Boohoo

HomeInMyShoes · 02-10-2012, 03:20 PM

I feel bad that I just read a Penguin book. After this year's required reading I will be limiting my potential read lists and purchases to publishers that are library friendly.

ATDrake · 02-10-2012, 03:27 PM

I voted option #2. A publisher not-offering to libraries won't completely stop me from buying from them if they've otherwise got a good price on a good book by an author whose works I like and want to support.

But for more marginal hey-this-looks-possibly-interesting-to-try-out stuff, I would definitely give more consideration/allow a higher price-point to a library-available publisher than one who outright refused or was working to undermine the existing system, whom I would probably decide "no, not really" unless the dirt-cheap price and promising blurb/sample and author's award-nominee reputation in the field were really compelling.

I vote with my wallet, but it's weighted-preference proportional voting rather than first-past-the-post winner-take-all.

spindlegirl · 02-10-2012, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

I feel bad that I just read a Penguin book. After this year's required reading I will be limiting my potential read lists and purchases to publishers that are library friendly.

Same here. Prisoner of Tehran by Marina Nemat (A Canada Reads contender) was on my "to buy" list due to having been so moved by that book. They just lost a possible customer who loved their book.

CJJ · 02-10-2012, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spindlegirl

SPEAKING of which......

"Penguin pulls out of OverDrive, stops ebook sales to libraries"

Boohoo

Yes. That was the news that drove me to create the survey. It pushed me over the edge.

Apache · 02-10-2012, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyGuy

I vote for option 5: Publishers should have no say what-so-ever in whether a particular ebook is available from a library. The library should simply purchase X copies of the ebook from wherever and loan them out as usual.

This.
Apache

spindlegirl · 02-10-2012, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJJ

Yes. That was the news that drove me to create the survey. It pushed me over the edge.

That made me

too. Since getting an e-reader and being able to borrow books, I have actually been more open-minded to buying either a printed or e-copy of a book I like after having read it on my reader.

In general I am very cheap about books, but I am less "cheap" than "I want to know what I am getting". I had not bought many books, because I can get so many free books, but it is because of that, that I am more open to buying. Having an upper limit on my general budget doesn't mean I am inflexible. I have a birthday coming up in a few months, whereby I can spend OPM

Yapyap · 02-10-2012, 04:51 PM

Since not a single publisher is offering ebooks to any libraries relevant to me, it's not something that influences my decisions in any way. I buy books by publishers who have signed up the authors I like - mostly, that seems to mean HarperCollins these days, with the occasional Simon & Schuster and Random House book thrown in.

In principle though, I do wish all major publishers would treat ebooks on an equal basis with paper books and allowed libraries to have them. I don't even think a cap is necessarily a bad thing - from a publisher point of view, it would certainly seem reasonable - although the 26 times lending limit that HarperCollins set seems a bit too low compared to how many times a paper book can be read.

View Poll Results: Publishers Preference Poll
I will only buy from ebook friendly publishers who support Libraries	4	10.53%
I may think twice before buying from a particular publisher if they don’t support Libraries	17	44.74%
I purchase all my books so I don't really care about publishers attitudes towards Libraries	6	15.79%
The current situation is merely reactionary and will get sorted out eventually so I don't worry about it	11	28.95%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

02-10-2012, 12:58 PM	#1
CJJ Zealot Posts: 125 Karma: 189828 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Wisconsin, USA Device: laptop, iriver Story HD, Galaxy Tab2 10.1	Publishers Preference Poll With all of the posturing of publishers in regards to ebooks and their willingness or unwillingness to sell ebooks to Libraries; I thought a poll on the affect this has on consumer sentiment might be interesting.

02-10-2012, 01:51 PM	#4
Falcao Banned Posts: 1,344 Karma: 1028477047 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nueva Andalucía Device: Sony PRS 650	You need another option: "I pirate all my books so I don't really care about publishers attitudes towards Libraries" Last edited by Falcao; 02-10-2012 at 09:20 PM.

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02-10-2012, 01:48 PM	#2
CyGuy Avid Reader Posts: 769 Karma: 7777778 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: PocketBook 902, Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, ASUS TF700, and Cybook Gen III	I vote for option 5: Publishers should have no say what-so-ever in whether a particular ebook is available from a library. The library should simply purchase X copies of the ebook from wherever and loan them out as usual.

02-10-2012, 01:50 PM	#3
Giggleton Banned Posts: 1,687 Karma: 4368191 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Oregon Device: Kindle3	I like the idea of libraries obtaining a copy of every book published/uploaded. Publishers should have no say concerning our access to knowledge.

02-10-2012, 02:17 PM	#5
CJJ Zealot Posts: 125 Karma: 189828 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Wisconsin, USA Device: laptop, iriver Story HD, Galaxy Tab2 10.1	You are right. I should have. But I was trying to think of what options we currently have. But both of you have expressed, I would hope, the sentiments of most readers. "I vote for option 5: Publishers should have no say what-so-ever in whether a particular ebook is available from a library. The library should simply purchase X copies of the ebook from wherever and loan them out as usual." "I like the idea of libraries obtaining a copy of every book published/uploaded. Publishers should have no say concerning our access to knowledge."

02-10-2012, 02:26 PM	#6
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,891 Karma: 207182180 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I will purchase the books I want to own and borrow (or do without) the rest; with basically zero knowledge of who the publisher of the book might be.

02-10-2012, 02:42 PM	#7
spindlegirl Wizard Posts: 1,594 Karma: 21245891 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra h20, Paperwhite 2017, Phone & Tablet w Moonreader	Since every single physical and e-book purchase is completely dependent on my loving it after using it at the library, then I voted for option 1. But option 5 is also relevant. I let the public library advertise books to me, because they let me read them for free (unless for physical books we are late returning), and then if there is a book I cannot live without owning, I then put it on my target list for "books to look for good deals".

02-10-2012, 03:16 PM	#8
spindlegirl Wizard Posts: 1,594 Karma: 21245891 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra h20, Paperwhite 2017, Phone & Tablet w Moonreader	SPEAKING of which...... "Penguin pulls out of OverDrive, stops ebook sales to libraries" Boohoo

02-10-2012, 03:20 PM	#9
HomeInMyShoes Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,226 Karma: 67780237 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: none	I feel bad that I just read a Penguin book. After this year's required reading I will be limiting my potential read lists and purchases to publishers that are library friendly.

02-10-2012, 03:27 PM	#10
ATDrake Wizzard Posts: 11,517 Karma: 33048258 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Roundworld Device: Kindle 2 International, Sony PRS-T1, BlackBerry PlayBook, Acer Iconia	I voted option #2. A publisher not-offering to libraries won't completely stop me from buying from them if they've otherwise got a good price on a good book by an author whose works I like and want to support. But for more marginal hey-this-looks-possibly-interesting-to-try-out stuff, I would definitely give more consideration/allow a higher price-point to a library-available publisher than one who outright refused or was working to undermine the existing system, whom I would probably decide "no, not really" unless the dirt-cheap price and promising blurb/sample and author's award-nominee reputation in the field were really compelling. I vote with my wallet, but it's weighted-preference proportional voting rather than first-past-the-post winner-take-all.

02-10-2012, 04:51 PM	#15
Yapyap Guru Posts: 861 Karma: 3543721 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Estonia Device: Kindle Paperwhite, iPad 3, Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge	Since not a single publisher is offering ebooks to any libraries relevant to me, it's not something that influences my decisions in any way. I buy books by publishers who have signed up the authors I like - mostly, that seems to mean HarperCollins these days, with the occasional Simon & Schuster and Random House book thrown in. In principle though, I do wish all major publishers would treat ebooks on an equal basis with paper books and allowed libraries to have them. I don't even think a cap is necessarily a bad thing - from a publisher point of view, it would certainly seem reasonable - although the 26 times lending limit that HarperCollins set seems a bit too low compared to how many times a paper book can be read.