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You also have the rights to give them the finger and laugh at clueless dumbasses who fall for it. If someone is willing to take the PD works and include better typography or layout and include historical research or criticism and all, I'd certainly be willing to pay for that. |
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This question really amounts to "do you prefer the status quo?"
Nothing is released into the public domain for 70 years. That means that nothing written in your or my lifetime will ever enter the public domain, as far as we are concerned. From our viewpoint, we already have "copyright forever." So if the only other choice were to be to get rid of copyright, I'd take it. Last edited by Harmon; 01-19-2012 at 06:12 PM. |
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I very much doubt that Harry Potter, for example, will fall into the public domain in my lifetime, nor my children's lifetimes. |
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It's close to an impossible choice - but if forced - I'd chose copyright over no copyright. Creators need protection. Personally I think Canada's 50 years is quite fair, though I doubt it will remain that way, due to external pressure.
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If you think about it, this kind of demonstrates the fallacy behind so much of the anti-piracy rhetoric. Project Gutenberg ebooks are analogous to pirated ebooks - i.e., they are available for free if you bother to look. And yet, when the "pirated" books are available on a commercial site, people will pay for them. A lot of these people might be clueless, but I'll bet that a lot of them are willing to cough up a buck or two to save time & effort. I mean, you can make your coffee at home everyday & carry it in your thermos cup, or you can join the line at Starbucks & pay three times as much. Most people seem to be standing in line. What's interesting to me is that in a way, the OP has given us a question that is rapidly being emptied of meaning, from a consumer viewpoint, because of "streaming." That is to say, when the content is cheap enough, it might as well be free. In fact, the very idea of "owning" content as a consumer is vanishing. (As I sit here listening to Spotify...) (Zoe Keating, Tetrishead, on One Cello x 16: Natoma http://www.amazon.com/One-Cello-X-16.../dp/B000CAKQ0M) http://www.zoekeating.com/) It seems to me that the problem with the copyright laws is being isolated to the availability of the artwork to other artists. Because of the lengthy copyright period, fewer artists have access to other artists' work as something to incorporate into their own. On the one hand, this means that fewer orchestras will be playing Peter & the Wolf, http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...ight-decision/ meaning that consumers' access to live classical music of the modern era will be diminished. OTOH, those orchestras who record the piece will put it on Spotify, meaning that other consumers will have it whenever they want. I think that copyright, as it is currently conceived, is beginning to be contrary to its purpose. This point was touched on by two of the Justices of the Supreme Court in Golan v. Holder http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/10-545.pdf Last edited by Harmon; 01-19-2012 at 06:13 PM. |
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OTOH, as the electrons eat away at the analog universe, copyright may go the way of Prohibition. That is to say, it will be replaced with some other sytem (liquor licenses, brewing permits) with some restrictive impact, but nothing like the totalitarian reach of the current system. |
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Copyright is a compact with the citizens through the Constitution to have a monopoly for a short time to encourage science and arts. It is not some entities' personal slave maker. If anyone (or thing) wants copyright forever let's develop a cost analysis of what they should pay in taxes for joint services paid for by everyone to support their business. As networks become a part of who and what we are as a being, community, state, country and world laws will have to evolve to encompass reality. That's why SOPA is failing. Industries see no problem taking away free speech or convicting without a trial. They have had their Congressional representatives try to vote that into law. Those representatives are seeing the result of being technically ignorant, now. |
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The huge corporations that this helps do know what is in their own best interests, and have plenty of money to throw around lobbying for what they want. |
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The problem is, with the way the system is, we're somewhat limited. We're often given two choices, and on many subjects (as seen by the SOPA/PIPA hoohah), many have been in similar mindset (on this issue, till people got pissed at them). No one is exactly what you want, on every subject, and many politicians are very alike, so at election time, you're often given two bad choices (happens more often than getting two good choices).
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I dont Mind Copyright What I Hate Is I BUY an eBook & Stuck reading it Only on a certain eReader Do to DRM!!
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As a person who has written both articles and music for my church to use, I fully support the doing away with copyright. I would love to see anyone be able to use both the written word and music freely, no matter who writes it. Isn't it a shame that things have gotten so out of hand? You can't even sing "Happy Birthday" if you are on the wait staff in a restaurant, because it's copyrighted. I see that literature is going the same way, with sellers of ebooks stating that you aren't buying the book, you're only buying a license to read the book. I understand that some people depend on royalties for their living. I can appreciate that. But somehow, I think that the only ones really benefiting from this are the big publishing/recording companies. Of course, this is my own personal opinion. I don't intend to participate in "piracy" just because I don't agree with the laws. But I do wish we could do something to change them.
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Also, don't forget there is another group involved here: Independent artists and creators that don't use the big publishing/recording companies. Copyright protects them most of all. |
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If you go by the current copyright laws you can't record something if there is music playing in the background, or a TV is on in a background. Photos of objects are 2D copies of 3D objects so if the object is under copyright, the photos are illegal as well. The only reason why people support copyright law is because they don't know how little they can do under it. And when it comes to the author's profit, you seem to be ignoring that fact that authors were selling their works before copyright as well. Some authors were cheated out of their profits before copyright, and some are cheated out of their profits now. Publishers provide a service to the authors just like the government provides a service to the citizens but nobody would be happy to be taxed 75% of their due income and think oh well, the government is expensive to run, this is fine. |
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You can do. Showing a single page of a book for purposes of illustration counts as "fair use" by anyone's standards.
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