Silliness Quiz - Page 340

Hamlet53 · 12-22-2011, 01:01 PM

"By the shores of Gitchee Gumee,
By the shining big sea water"

Hiawatha by Longfellow.

That being the total extent I can recall of that from memory.

(No look at spoilers involved.)

HomeInMyShoes · 12-22-2011, 01:04 PM

So what is "Gitchee Gumee" referring to?

Hamlet53 · 12-22-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

I only knew Jefferson City because I lived in Missouri for a few years.

Hmmm....thinking of a category.

Math. Mwahahahaa!!!

How do you make 34 out of 1, 2, 6, and 7?

This brings back memories, and I am disappointed that I was so late even seeing this. In the math course I took my senior year in high school the instructor as fun extra credit would give us four digits (0-9) and challenge us to see how many natural numbers we could form starting at 0 and up [0,1,2, . . .] using each of those four digits once and only once. We were allowed to make use of not only +, -, *, /; but also factorials (treating 0!=1) and powers. Try it some time and you will be surprised at how far one may get.

Hamlet53 · 12-22-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

So what is "Gitchee Gumee" referring to?

One of the Great Lakes. Lake Superior?, and that's a pure guess.

Daithi · 12-22-2011, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamlet53

"By the shores of Gitchee Gumee,
By the shining big sea water"

Hiawatha by Longfellow.

That being the total extent I can recall of that from memory.

(No look at spoilers involved.)

I forgot about The Song of Hiawatha, but it didn't help anyway, because I still don't know what Gitchee Gumee is. It sounds like a town along the shores of one of the great lakes.

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I just went and looked it up, Hamlet53 is indeed correct.

HomeInMyShoes · 12-22-2011, 01:39 PM

Hamlet53 has it.

The Ojibwe (Chippewa) call Lake Superior Gichigami which means "big water" (from wikipedia). Longfellow wrote Hiawatha, an epic poem sort of based on the legends of Hiawatha. There's a lot of names involved along the way because Hiawatha was the great bringer of peace who brought together five at first and later six tribes together the Iroquois Confederacy.

Longfellow altered the name to Gitchee Gumme in his poem and Gordon Lightfoot used that wording as well in his song The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. For some reason I had that song in my head this morning.

"The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
of the big lake they called "Gitche Gumee."
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
when the skies of November turn gloomy.
With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty,
that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
when the "Gales of November" came early."
~from gordonlightfoot.com

The Edmund Fitzgerald sank that November, taking the lives of all twenty-nine crew members.

Hamlet53 · 12-22-2011, 04:20 PM

So a small bit of relatively obscure history. The hostility (Cold War) between the U.S. and the Soviet Union (before its collapse) is well known. There has been a case where the US and the Soviets engaged in a “hot war,” that is open direct combat between military of both countries. When (decade) and where?

Daithi · 12-22-2011, 04:57 PM

Was it in Korea? In 1949 or 1950?

dreams · 12-22-2011, 05:06 PM

Was this the one over Alaska? Never mind, I see hot war is actual combat.

Maybe, way back in the 1950's for the Korean War? No, maybe not. I have some of my dad's papers and one is a Japanese culture help book. I give up.

EDIT: oops, I see Daithi has the same thought I had.

issybird · 12-22-2011, 05:55 PM

During the First World War, American troops fought the Russians in Archangel and Vladivostok. But while this was after the Russian Revolution and Russia's withdrawal from WWI, it wouldn't have been the Soviet Union yet. But I'll offer it up, with the decade the teens.

Hamlet53 · 12-22-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird

During the First World War, American troops fought the Russians in Archangel and Vladivostok. But while this was after the Russian Revolution and Russia's withdrawal from WWI, it wouldn't have been the Soviet Union yet. But I'll offer it up, with the decade the teens.

An arguable point as the hostile action was against the Soviets. But that is what I was thinking of. So give us the next brain teaser. BTW great job getting both locations correct.

issybird · 12-22-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamlet53

An arguable point as the hostile action was against the Soviets. But that is what I was thinking of. So give us the next brain teaser. BTW great job getting both locations correct.

Thanks; I'm something of a Great War buff. It's amazing to me to think that we're on the verge of the hundredth anniversary of the start of the hostilities. Like the Civil War when I was a sprog and that seemed like ancient history.

As for a puzzler, I need to think a bit. I'm a bit muzzy from my preprandial wine. Sláinte!

WT Sharpe · 12-22-2011, 08:34 PM

1917, but I don't know where. The Russians know about it, because it led to the Cold War. It's generally not taught in U.S. grade school textbooks, and most Americans are unaware of it.

Hamlet53 · 12-23-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

1917, but I don't know where. The Russians know about it, because it led to the Cold War. It's generally not taught in U.S. grade school textbooks, and most Americans are unaware of it.

Yes, as Isssybird noted it was shortly before the end of WWI; starting in September 1918 and continuing into early 1920 for the action in Siberia.

It's original purpose was supposedly to resurrect the Eastern Front in WWI, but after the Armistice in November 1918 it was really more about attempting to prevent the Bolsheviks from consolidating power in Russia.

Polar Bear Expedition

American Expeditionary Force Siberia

And as WTSharpe stated, this is not something taught to Americans. The Soviets never forgot though. I was looking for a Kruschev quote I recalled about this, but could not find it.

issybird · 12-23-2011, 03:22 PM

Several actresses and actors have won more than one Oscar for acting. This will go to the person who names the most, along with the films for which they won, in a reasonable* amount of time.

*reasonable being defined as concluding when the answers peter out.

12-22-2011, 01:39 PM	#5091
HomeInMyShoes Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,226 Karma: 67780237 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: none	Hamlet53 has it. The Ojibwe (Chippewa) call Lake Superior Gichigami which means "big water" (from wikipedia). Longfellow wrote Hiawatha, an epic poem sort of based on the legends of Hiawatha. There's a lot of names involved along the way because Hiawatha was the great bringer of peace who brought together five at first and later six tribes together the Iroquois Confederacy. Longfellow altered the name to Gitchee Gumme in his poem and Gordon Lightfoot used that wording as well in his song The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. For some reason I had that song in my head this morning. "The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they called "Gitche Gumee." The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy. With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty, that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed when the "Gales of November" came early." ~from gordonlightfoot.com The Edmund Fitzgerald sank that November, taking the lives of all twenty-nine crew members. Last edited by HomeInMyShoes; 12-22-2011 at 01:41 PM. Reason: to add a little more to the story

12-22-2011, 08:34 PM	#5098
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,072 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	1917, but I don't know where. The Russians know about it, because it led to the Cold War. It's generally not taught in U.S. grade school textbooks, and most Americans are unaware of it. Last edited by WT Sharpe; 12-22-2011 at 08:36 PM.

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12-22-2011, 01:01 PM	#5086
Hamlet53 Nameless Being	"By the shores of Gitchee Gumee, By the shining big sea water" Hiawatha by Longfellow. That being the total extent I can recall of that from memory. (No look at spoilers involved.)

12-22-2011, 01:04 PM	#5087
HomeInMyShoes Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,226 Karma: 67780237 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: none	So what is "Gitchee Gumee" referring to?

12-22-2011, 04:20 PM	#5092
Hamlet53 Nameless Being	So a small bit of relatively obscure history. The hostility (Cold War) between the U.S. and the Soviet Union (before its collapse) is well known. There has been a case where the US and the Soviets engaged in a “hot war,” that is open direct combat between military of both countries. When (decade) and where?

12-22-2011, 04:57 PM	#5093
Daithi Publishers are evil! Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles	Was it in Korea? In 1949 or 1950?

12-22-2011, 05:06 PM	#5094
dreams It's about the umbrella Posts: 25,110 Karma: 56250158 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony 505\| K Fire \| KK 3G+Wi-Fi \| iPhone 3Gs \|Vista 32-bit Hm Prem w/FF	Was this the one over Alaska? Never mind, I see hot war is actual combat. Maybe, way back in the 1950's for the Korean War? No, maybe not. I have some of my dad's papers and one is a Japanese culture help book. I give up. EDIT: oops, I see Daithi has the same thought I had.

12-22-2011, 05:55 PM	#5095
issybird o saeclum infacetum Posts: 21,400 Karma: 235678911 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5	During the First World War, American troops fought the Russians in Archangel and Vladivostok. But while this was after the Russian Revolution and Russia's withdrawal from WWI, it wouldn't have been the Soviet Union yet. But I'll offer it up, with the decade the teens.

12-23-2011, 03:22 PM	#5100
issybird o saeclum infacetum Posts: 21,400 Karma: 235678911 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5	Several actresses and actors have won more than one Oscar for acting. This will go to the person who names the most, along with the films for which they won, in a reasonable* amount of time. *reasonable being defined as concluding when the answers peter out.