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Old 12-20-2011, 04:54 PM   #31
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I know have a Sony, which have collections like Kindle, but I have an Opus before, which had folders. The books I have had around are more or less the same. Perhaps I'm a bit strange, but with 3000 books in my reader, no matter which way to handle it, I wouldn't know what to read.

BTW, I created a nice epb book with calibre where you could find all the info about the books I have at a moment in the reader. I don't generate it anymore (it was authomatic), because I didn't open it, I look the library.

But well, everybody their ways.

And the tool you say, as a toc of the books in the reader, yes, it's possible to do it, and in a extremely simple way in linux/unix with shell scripts. Harder in DOS, but it can be done. I have a similar one for checking the coherence between my folders and my database. But I'm only an old programmer who still thinks that shellscripts are a wonderful tool
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:00 AM   #32
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Some people load things like manuals on their readers or tablets. Or other reference material.
I personally would *LOVE* to have a kind of local mirror (regularly updated of course ;-) )of Wikipedia in my pocket. A few years ago there was a device available, with primitive grey LCD, text-only display with Wikipedia on it. Last tile I looked you could even download snapshot of the entire English (and I suppose other languages / sections as well) Wikipedia database - text only - as series of archives.

I would also appreciate an off-line database of electronic parts, such as integrated circuits, discrete semiconductors, capacitors, resistors, ... complete with datasheets and reference designs.
People have all kinds of "libraries" of materials, and it isn't always fiction or even what you would recognise as an e-book.

You can only read one fiction book at one single moment, but some people like to have choice of what to read next. Like one poster in one of previous posts said if you went to library and they only let you access one small shelf of books saying "You can't possibly read all 50 thousands of books we have here, so why do you want to see all the books?" you would be annoyed.


There is another point of view.
Limited number of books you can actually load on Kindle is an artificial limitation. Amazon is trying to motivate you to have only a few books available on the device at the time, and they want you to purchase content from them as you go. Some people, myself included, are very annoyed when we come across such artificial limitation, and we want to hack the system as a matter of principle. Not because we *really* need 50000 books on the device, but because we do not like to be told what we can do with our devices.

Some people, myself included, are very annoyed when we come across such artificial limitation, and we want to hack the system as a matter of principle.



it seems you are right.i have a terabyte hard drive with millions of various files including books,mp3,18 operating systems files files and the computer does not slow down...on the kindle 3 put 1 or 2 thousand files and it starts to slow down.

why?

it should not do that at all.it should load the book file into memory that is being read and not do anything to the other files in the document folder.


amazon seems to have come up a really crappy operating system for the kindle.

their os for some reason even after indexing the books it seemed to be obsessed with "processing" them and slowing down or freezing.it almost seems like that horrible vista with spinning circle thing.

there must be some way of defeating this.

the chinese have come up with doukan operating system for the kindle and although i have not tried it yet it seems to have folder support and epub support.

you can install both os side by side.you can see the other thread about it with links.
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:03 AM   #33
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Part of the problem on a Kindle is that it has to use the FAT filesystem to allow easy USB export and FAT is not good at handling many files in one folder. Using Calibre, for example, you can build a folder hierarchy even on a Kindle and this seems to help.

Also, you may be experiencing a re-indexing bug that crops up sometimes. One fix is to disable indexing.
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:20 AM   #34
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I have 9 ebooks and 2 audiobooks on my Kindle. That's more than I usually keep on there.
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:40 AM   #35
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I have 500+ books on my Kindle, and I'm adding more every day. I've read most of them, fewer than 100 unread. When I am looking for something else to read, I like to have a free choice of my entire library; not to have to think "I can't read 'Khaled', because it's archived on my computer at home." Browsing the list is part of the experience.
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:56 AM   #36
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I only keep a few hundred on my reader right now--but that's because the nav system is awful with too many. If the software were competently designed for thousands of titles, I'd keep that many on the reader.

A lot of my ebooks are short stories. I'd have a lot more of those loaded if the software were better; as it is, loading three hundred fanfic stories is troublesome to wade through. (Hmm. Maybe I should just start making separate fandom folders.) I like having a large library to choose from when I get done with one book; I like "hmm, what am I in the mood for now? Romance? Scifi? Nonfiction? Fanfic?" I don't see why I should have to keep connecting to my computer to change the selection; if it's got space for a 32gb card, why not load 15gb of ebooks on it? (ans: because the software falls apart when dealing with that big a collection.) I have a 2gb card and about 550 ebooks on that, and 300 in the main memory.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:50 AM   #37
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Put as many books as you want on it—it's yours... just don't pretend there's a rational, reasonable explanation for why you're taking it to this extreme.
Depends on the type of books: research books, flight maps, etc, all require large numbers (and lots of space).

those who won't be around convenient (or secure) wifi long periods are also in the mix - a simple solar charger suffices for a year of military or peace corps duty, but a half dozen books generally won't.

As for Mt Everest - just because I don't want to climb it doesn't mean I might not want a copy of a book about climbing or about a particular climb on my Kindle.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:58 AM   #38
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it seems you are right.i have a terabyte hard drive with millions of various files including books,mp3,18 operating systems files files and the computer does not slow down...on the kindle 3 put 1 or 2 thousand files and it starts to slow down.

why?

it should not do that at all.it should load the book file into memory that is being read and not do anything to the other files in the document folder.


amazon seems to have come up a really crappy operating system for the kindle.

their os for some reason even after indexing the books it seemed to be obsessed with "processing" them and slowing down or freezing.it almost seems like that horrible vista with spinning circle thing.

there must be some way of defeating this.

the chinese have come up with doukan operating system for the kindle and although i have not tried it yet it seems to have folder support and epub support.

you can install both os side by side.you can see the other thread about it with links.
The problem is that they don't hire old programmers, but kids out of hack school -- interpretive scripts are fine, but you need to set up a permanent memory area to use for redisplay (which they don't really do). sorting such a list is near instantaneous (or is instantaneous, if you design your link list correctly); instead, the kindle re-reads the list AND the data in the MBP files for each redisplay, it seems.

They also have an artificial limit of around 3200 for their initial build of files - you run into it first in the archive list (usually), when registering a new device. It only loads the oldest files, stops at around 3200, then adds newly purchased items after that, leaving a donut hole in your archives that never fills (the only work around is using the website to find your books or store yourself offline).

They have also chose a solution on the MYK page that only makes sense if you have a small library, rather than a solution that might be slightly slower for those with more than 20 books and under 100, but faster for all those with larger archives.

I may have to kill indexing on mine -- but I don't think it will fix the issue it has with rebooting (only if wifi on and left to sleep; it's like an endless update cycle, but it doesn't need to update). This is the second one I've had start this after the last update was released (rather than fix the software, Amazon replaced my Kindle last time, but now this Kindle has reached the number of items required to have it start the same thing).
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:53 PM   #39
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This is similar to a debate on MR from way back when the prs505 was new and people were dismayed to find that they could not carry their library with them as the device couldnt handle more than say 500 books at a time and would take an age to sort them on the device.
then as now why produce a device with the space for say 1000 books if it cant handle them and then include expansion slots.

when prs+ was released and i installed it on my 505 it was amazing to have my whole library with me and be able to choose from a favorite author or try someone new and if i didnt like the book i had access to my whole library. this is why i bought a reader in the first place so i would have all my books all the time.

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