Confused by Personal Documents Settings

yacoob · 12-20-2011, 04:30 PM

From what I can see on freshly acquired Kindle Touch:

If something ends up in the online "library" (with "Personal Document Archiving" on), I can't delete it from the device - I need to delete it first from the web interface, then from the device.
If I'll disable this archiving, I'll be able to delete items sent to Kindle directly on the Kindle.
I'm unable to read my personal docs via cloud reader or desktop app.

If all of the above is true, then it looks to me like this "archiving" is only useful for people with >1 physical Kindle. Or am I missing something here?

shinew · 12-20-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by yacoob

From what I can see on freshly acquired Kindle Touch:

If something ends up in the online "library" (with "Personal Document Archiving" on), I can't delete it from the device - I need to delete it first from the web interface, then from the device.

Yes you can delete the physical copy from your kindle by selecting "Move to Archived Item", amazon just name it differently.

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If all of the above is true, then it looks to me like this "archiving" is only useful for people with >1 physical Kindle. Or am I missing something here?

Not just that. It also provides a backup copy of your personal doc.

yacoob · 12-21-2011, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shinew

Yes you can delete the physical copy from your kindle by selecting "Move to Archived Item", amazon just name it differently.

I've noticed that this is the case for a .mobi book that I've put there this way. This is not the case for a Instapaper delivery - the menu simply doesn't pop up on long-press until I remove entry from the online interface and sync the Kindle.

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Not just that. It also provides a backup copy of your personal doc.

I guess so. This is probably important to anyone making notes/highlights - I usually already have a backup of the book itself somewhere, and I don't care about the notes I might add.

nonobjective · 01-26-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by yacoob

I've noticed that this is the case for a .mobi book that I've put there this way. This is not the case for a Instapaper delivery - the menu simply doesn't pop up on long-press until I remove entry from the online interface and sync the Kindle.

Yes, this started happening with some of my Calibre new feeds too. I thought I had done something weird like toggled a "read only" setting.

tomsem · 01-26-2012, 02:37 PM

'Subscription' mobi gets messed up if it is archived as a PD, and you need to delete from MYK before you can delete from your Kindle. It will work okay if it is side loaded (via USB or downloaded using kindle browser from instapaper theoretically).

If you use Windows, you can get the Amazon Send To Kindle app and use that to send a mobi downloaded from instapaper; it has an option to deliver wirelessly without archiving to PD. Wish they'd share the secret handshake that yields that behavior.

12-20-2011, 04:30 PM	#1
yacoob Zealot Posts: 120 Karma: 1326 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: none	Confused by Personal Documents Settings From what I can see on freshly acquired Kindle Touch: If something ends up in the online "library" (with "Personal Document Archiving" on), I can't delete it from the device - I need to delete it first from the web interface, then from the device. If I'll disable this archiving, I'll be able to delete items sent to Kindle directly on the Kindle. I'm unable to read my personal docs via cloud reader or desktop app. If all of the above is true, then it looks to me like this "archiving" is only useful for people with >1 physical Kindle. Or am I missing something here?

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tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,939 Karma: 27060151 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	'Subscription' mobi gets messed up if it is archived as a PD, and you need to delete from MYK before you can delete from your Kindle. It will work okay if it is side loaded (via USB or downloaded using kindle browser from instapaper theoretically). If you use Windows, you can get the Amazon Send To Kindle app and use that to send a mobi downloaded from instapaper; it has an option to deliver wirelessly without archiving to PD. Wish they'd share the secret handshake that yields that behavior.

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