Using Kindle Touch in Canada

[ElConquistador]

Originally Posted by Shopaholic

I just bought a K4 at Sam's Club in Buffalo yesterday. I brought it home, registered it to my .com account and am good to go. I never thought in a million years I'd buy or like a Kindle. I really hate the keyboard and don't like the idea of being tied to only one place to buy from, but I'm liking it.

I'm not trying to start a Kindle vs everything else out there discussion. Please don't anyone go that route. And I don't do the de-DRM thing.

As far as buying, it works perfectly fine. Exactly like it's supposed to. I've bought onlilne through my PC and I've bought from the device. No issues at all.

As a plus I noticed that there's no Canadian taxes added to the prices of the books. It may be worked into it but I like not having that on top of the price I see. I'm still working my way with the device & getting used to it. I do really like the size of it. It's very light too.

You don't have to do the deDRM thing. All you have to do is acquire ebooks with .mobi extensions. Thats all there is to it. I have over 12000 .mobi titles of every author imaginable.

[Shopaholic]

Originally Posted by ElConquistador

You don't have to do the deDRM thing. All you have to do is acquire ebooks with .mobi extensions. Thats all there is to it. I have over 12000 .mobi titles of every author imaginable.

Interesting choice of words. 'Acquire'. I take it you did not buy those books but simply downloaded pirated copies perhaps? I don't ascribe to that. People work hard to make their items - books, music, movies etc and deserve to be paid for them.

I too am a creative person and make things. I know some of the effort involved. I won't steal from these people.

[CRussel]

I agree completely, Shopaholic. Which doesn't stop me from removing the DRM from the books I buy, just to ensure that I continue to have access to them and to allow format shifting if needed.

[Edward_R]

Originally Posted by Shopaholic

Interesting choice of words. 'Acquire'. I take it you did not buy those books but simply downloaded pirated copies perhaps? I don't ascribe to that. People work hard to make their items - books, music, movies etc and deserve to be paid for them.

I too am a creative person and make things. I know some of the effort involved. I won't steal from these people.

One should never assume that someone is stealing books simply because they used the the word Acquire in their post. Do a google search for free books, there are a lot of legitimate sites with Non-Pirated, Free books that can be downloaded to your Kindle.

[shinew]

I agree that people should get paid for their work, but...

[Shopaholic]

Originally Posted by Edward_R

One should never assume that someone is stealing books simply because they used the the word Acquire in their post. Do a google search for free books, there are a lot of legitimate sites with Non-Pirated, Free books that can be downloaded to your Kindle.

I didn't assume. I said perhaps and put a question mark. It was a question. And if you reread what that person wrote it's a good question.

"You don't have to do the deDRM thing. All you have to do is acquire ebooks with .mobi extensions. Thats all there is to it. I have over 12000 .mobi titles of every author imaginable."

Not every author imaginable offers their books for free online.

Shinew - I disagree. File sharing is stealing. You're splitting hairs and saying simply because the 'sharer' isn't charging it's not piracy. Those unpaid for copies given out are pirated/stolen/illegal books. Same diff only no funds have changed hands. It doesn't negate the fact that unpaid for copies are floating around. The act of distributing, or what you & others call sharing, unpaid for works is still piracy.

[Pushka]

the Touch 3G works fine in Australia.

It is interesting that giving a second hand book to someone else is not stealing.

[Shopaholic]

Originally Posted by Pushka

the Touch 3G works fine in Australia.

It is interesting that giving a second hand book to someone else is not stealing.

LOL we were just having that discussion here too. The difference is it's one physical book being shared amongst friends as opposed to making multiple copies giving one to each of those friends. Who do the same and give it to their two friends, who give it to their two friends.....

[Nestor B.]

Originally Posted by Shopaholic

File sharing is stealing. You're splitting hairs and saying simply because the 'sharer' isn't charging it's not piracy. Those unpaid for copies given out are pirated/stolen/illegal books. Same diff only no funds have changed hands. It doesn't negate the fact that unpaid for copies are floating around. The act of distributing, or what you & others call sharing, unpaid for works is still piracy.

Three things:

1. Nobody was talking about "pirated" books here but you. The .mobi format (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobipocket) is perfectly legitimate (in fact, it is currently owned by Amazon) and there are much more than 12,000 titles available legally and for free in all kinds of different formats today. That that may not include "every author imaginable" doesn't mean a thing - it's just a figure of speech. Perhaps you should watch yourself a bit with the unsubstantiated knee-jerk accusations.

2. This is not the right forum for this discussion, most certainly not the right thread. The OP asked a concrete question and everyone but you has tried to answer them. What you are doing right now is, as they say in the "business", effectively derailing the thread.

3. However, since you're already at it: Could you tell me where one might pick up a copy of that "Introduction to the Naive Affirmation of Capitalist Exchange" that you seem to be quoting from?

[Shopaholic]

I apologize for temporarily hijacking the thread.

OP you may or may not be aware of this but when you buy books from Amazon the prices are in US funds. I don't know if that's an issue for you or not but it's good to know in advance and not have it be an unexpected surprise on your credit card statement.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by Shopaholic

Shinew - I disagree. File sharing is stealing. You're splitting hairs and saying simply because the 'sharer' isn't charging it's not piracy.

Originally Posted by Shopaholic

LOL we were just having that discussion here too. The difference is it's one physical book being shared amongst friends as opposed to making multiple copies giving one to each of those friends. Who do the same and give it to their two friends, who give it to their two friends.....

So, when you make a distinction, it is pointing out a difference, and when someone else does it, it is "splitting hairs"?

[CRussel]

Sorry, j.p.s, but Shopaholic is absolutely right. Lending a book to someone should be just that. Off your bookshelf if a pBook, or deleted from Calibre and your eReader if an eBook. Passing out multiple copies is not acceptable unless explicitely allowed by the author/publisher. I don't think that's splitting hairs, I think that's a very important distinction.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by CRussel

Sorry, j.p.s, but Shopaholic is absolutely right. Lending a book to someone should be just that. Off your bookshelf if a pBook, or deleted from Calibre and your eReader if an eBook. Passing out multiple copies is not acceptable unless explicitely allowed by the author/publisher. I don't think that's splitting hairs, I think that's a very important distinction.

I'm sorry, I never wrote anything claiming that it is OK to copy a protected work without permission. I wrote that just as lending a book is different from copying a book because the lender does not have the book while it is lent, copying a book is different from stealing a book because the book copy owner still has his copy.

Copying a book is not stealing the book. Not stealing does not make copying OK. Copying not being OK does not make it stealing.

All those are similar distinctions or similar hair splitting.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ElConquistador

Hey, I live in Toronto and picked up my kindle touch from Best Buy in Buffalo, NY. It only cost 99$. Acquiring ebooks is not that big of a deal if you know where to get them and its as simple as putting songs on your MP3 player.
The reading experience is phenomenal.

I have to ay, this sounds like getting eBooks for free that should not be free.

If you live in Canada, a Kindle is a bad idea since a lot of eBooks aren't available via Amazon because Penguin isn't selling via Amazon in Canada.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ElConquistador

You don't have to do the deDRM thing. All you have to do is acquire ebooks with .mobi extensions. Thats all there is to it. I have over 12000 .mobi titles of every author imaginable.

How did you acquire these 12000 mobi eBooks? Did you get most of them from illegal sources?