kf8 support

apastuszak · 11-25-2011, 12:25 AM

Has Amazon released any information on kf8 format which would allow calibre support? Do we know is even going to be a non-DRMed version of the format? I would think ePub to kf8 format would be less of a headache than ePub to mobi.

gweminence · 11-25-2011, 12:48 AM

Can pretty much guarantee it won't be non-DRM. Pretty sure publishers won't allow that.

kovidgoyal · 11-25-2011, 01:03 AM

Most likely at some point amazon will release tools to convert epub to kf8, those tools are likely to produce non drmed output. At that point the process of reverse engineering the format (amazon will almost certainly release no information about the format) will begin. How long (if it is ever completed) that reverse engineering will take will depend on 1) how badly designed the format is 2) How much time people are willing to volunteer to the reverse engineering effort.

apastuszak · 11-25-2011, 10:38 AM

Is that the standard workflow for publishers these days. Export to ePub from Indesign and then use some command line tool that Amazon provides to get it on the kindle?

kovidgoyal · 11-25-2011, 10:52 AM

I have no idea. I know that adobe recommends that they use calibre to convert the output from Indesign to MOBI, but I have no clue as to whether publishers actually use calibre or the Amazon tool, kindlegen

JMikeD · 11-25-2011, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apastuszak

Has Amazon released any information on kf8 format which would allow calibre support? Do we know is even going to be a non-DRMed version of the format? I would think ePub to kf8 format would be less of a headache than ePub to mobi.

Amazon has released some info on the KF8 format:

Overview:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...cId=1000729511

Some specifics:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...d_i=1000729511

FWIW.

kovidgoyal · 11-25-2011, 10:22 PM

Those are feature lists, what's needed is a description of the internals of the format.

11-25-2011, 12:25 AM	#1
apastuszak Fanatic Posts: 521 Karma: 125599 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bensalem, PA Device: Kindle Scribe, Nook Glowlight 4, Apple iPad Pro 12.9"	kf8 support Has Amazon released any information on kf8 format which would allow calibre support? Do we know is even going to be a non-DRMed version of the format? I would think ePub to kf8 format would be less of a headache than ePub to mobi.

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11-25-2011, 12:48 AM	#2
gweminence Fat Guy Posts: 408 Karma: 24165 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Kindle Voyage	Can pretty much guarantee it won't be non-DRM. Pretty sure publishers won't allow that.

11-25-2011, 01:03 AM	#3
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,609 Karma: 28549044 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Most likely at some point amazon will release tools to convert epub to kf8, those tools are likely to produce non drmed output. At that point the process of reverse engineering the format (amazon will almost certainly release no information about the format) will begin. How long (if it is ever completed) that reverse engineering will take will depend on 1) how badly designed the format is 2) How much time people are willing to volunteer to the reverse engineering effort.

11-25-2011, 10:38 AM	#4
apastuszak Fanatic Posts: 521 Karma: 125599 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bensalem, PA Device: Kindle Scribe, Nook Glowlight 4, Apple iPad Pro 12.9"	Is that the standard workflow for publishers these days. Export to ePub from Indesign and then use some command line tool that Amazon provides to get it on the kindle?

11-25-2011, 10:52 AM	#5
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,609 Karma: 28549044 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I have no idea. I know that adobe recommends that they use calibre to convert the output from Indesign to MOBI, but I have no clue as to whether publishers actually use calibre or the Amazon tool, kindlegen

11-25-2011, 10:22 PM	#7
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,609 Karma: 28549044 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Those are feature lists, what's needed is a description of the internals of the format.