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Old 05-15-2008, 08:03 PM   #31
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I was at the conference also, and not terribly impressed with those devices. They just didn't feel quite right (only held the smaller one.) Still, the more manufacturers and price points that are out there will only help grow the market.
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Did those that went to the conference happen to turn a page on the device.

Was there a delay in the screen refreshing like the sony?
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Yes, there was a delay, just like any other Eink display.
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Yes, there was a delay, just like any other Eink display.
blast, thought that was just a sony problem.
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Nice to see yet more devices out there...it'll start getting a bit difficult with all those same-hardware-diferent-firmware devices coming out...I wonder how all those companies are going to prevent the "cross-flashing" of these devices...
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Nice to see yet more devices out there...it'll start getting a bit difficult with all those same-hardware-diferent-firmware devices coming out...I wonder how all those companies are going to prevent the "cross-flashing" of these devices...
Especially as OpenInkpot comes to fruition.

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Nice to see yet more devices out there...it'll start getting a bit difficult with all those same-hardware-diferent-firmware devices coming out...I wonder how all those companies are going to prevent the "cross-flashing" of these devices...
Why should they try? Except for support issues cross-flashing should be a good thing.

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blast, thought that was just a sony problem.
It's not a "problem" - it's an inherent feature of eInk displays.
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explain that to bookeen...
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explain that to bookeen...
Well they don't want to give away their eBook reader but I suspect they don't care if you flash another ROM image. Companies that produce commercial software are usually reluctant to give it away given how much work it is to produce.

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Nice to see yet more devices out there...it'll start getting a bit difficult with all those same-hardware-diferent-firmware devices coming out...I wonder how all those companies are going to prevent the "cross-flashing" of these devices...
"cross-flashing" ????
Please explain ......

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When you flash and eBook Reader or other firmware controlled device such as a PDA you mean that you are reloading the firmware on the device. This is usually a new release of the firmware but you could also flash an older version. This applies when the firmware is obtained from the manufacturer. However, in some cases a third party may make firmware that would work on your hardware. For example the iPAQ normally uses Pocket PC (Windows Mobile) firmware but there is also a Linux version that could be flashed on the unit which would totally replace everything on the unit and it would become a linux device. When a third party firmware is applied to a device it is termed cross-flashing. In particular this effect would be most interesting if you flashed a unit with firmware that was not intended to be on that unit but was designed for another unit. In this case you are turning one brand of unit into another.

The hardware for several brands of ebook readers is all made by a single company and then sold to a company that adds its own customization and then rebrands the product. So in this case the manufactures firmware (1st party) could conceivably run as 3rd party firmware on someone else's hardware. This is taken for granted these days in the pc world but it not present so far in the eBook reader world.

Does that help?
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When you flash and eBook Reader or other firmware controlled device such as a PDA you mean that you are reloading the firmware on the device. This is usually a new release of the firmware but you could also flash an older version. This applies when the firmware is obtained from the manufacturer. However, in some cases a third party may make firmware that would work on your hardware. For example the iPAQ normally uses Pocket PC (Windows Mobile) firmware but there is also a Linux version that could be flashed on the unit which would totally replace everything on the unit and it would become a linux device. When a third party firmware is applied to a device it is termed cross-flashing. In particular this effect would be most interesting if you flashed a unit with firmware that was not intended to be on that unit but was designed for another unit. In this case you are turning one brand of unit into another.

The hardware for several brands of ebook readers is all made by a single company and then sold to a company that adds its own customization and then rebrands the product. So in this case the manufactures firmware (1st party) could conceivably run as 3rd party firmware on someone else's hardware. This is taken for granted these days in the pc world but it not present so far in the eBook reader world.

Does that help?
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Yes...I understand the concept (I've been in the computer world since the 70's, prior to IBM PC), but I still live in the world of the Operating System staying and just applications changing. So, essentially, we could have a eink device and take the new Cybook update and "cross-flash" it onto it?

I was playing with the idea of something like that for a very old Sharp Wizard PDA I have. Would love to turn it into a ebook reader.

Thanks for the explanation.

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