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Old 11-21-2011, 06:43 PM   #31
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The best way to fight the publishers is a boycott. But few want to do it. People have their favorite authors and won't let anything get in the way of reading them. They'll grumble about higher ebook pricing or lack of availability in libraries; and then turn around and buy it anyway.

Publishers 10 -- Customers 0
Actually, it's worse then that. If we were to boycott, the publishers would just do an "eBooks don't sell" routine and we'd still lose out.
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:50 PM   #32
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Not contradicting anything said so far ... just adding Canadian confirmation.

There are "lots" of Penguin titles as Adobe DRM ePub available online using Overdrive and connecting to, say, a Kobo Touch or directly over-the-air to a Kobo Vox from the Toronto Public Library.

Of course, there are no Amazon Kindle titles, as library loans from Overdrive, as none are available outside the US.
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:50 PM   #33
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Actually, it's worse then that. If we were to boycott, the publishers would just do an "eBooks don't sell" routine and we'd still lose out.
Then there'll be a new score:

Pirates 10 -- Publishers 0
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:53 PM   #34
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Then there'll be a new score:

Pirates 10 -- Publishers 0
Won't work if the eBooks aren't available to pirate.
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:01 PM   #35
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Won't work if the eBooks aren't available to pirate.
First off, not all publishers are unreasonable; and secondly, they all have vast catalogs of ebooks already in existence. Those publishers who abandon digital will only be hurting themselves as authors leave for greener pastures.
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:18 PM   #36
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I absolutely hate the entire publishing landscape right now. Somebody wake me up when this crap has been sorted and ebooks are no longer the devil.

Can't buy the ebook unless you have the correct address... can't borrow the ebook unless you have a certain eReader. It's no wonder people just give up and pirate.
My sentiments exactly.
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:36 PM   #37
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First off, not all publishers are unreasonable; and secondly, they all have vast catalogs of ebooks already in existence. Those publishers who abandon digital will only be hurting themselves as authors leave for greener pastures.
And let's not forget existing ebook publishers like smashwords and bookiejar. They won't just go out of business.
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:28 AM   #38
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This makes me so angry as I was looking forward to the new Patricia Cornwell book. Also Lisa Gardner and Robin Cook have new books coming out in the next few months. Stupid publishers need to evolve or die I think. Oh and stop being so greedy. I won't hesitate to pay 9.99 or less. I will pay 12.99 if I really really want it, but I refuse to pay more than that. I have been using the library extensively too.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:10 AM   #39
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I won't hesitate to pay 9.99 or less. I will pay 12.99 if I really really want it, but I refuse to pay more than that. I have been using the library extensively too.
My limit is $1. I usually get the $1 Kindle Special Offers deals.
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:06 AM   #40
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Won't work if the eBooks aren't available to pirate.
There were downloadable scanned ebooks long before there were commercially available ebooks.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:13 AM   #41
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No word yet from Penguin regarding their "security concerns."
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:01 PM   #42
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No word yet from Penguin regarding their "security concerns."
I think this is just a ruse. In the case of a lawsuit Penguin might have to justify why they permitted non-Amazon ebooks at the library but wouldn't permit the Amazon books. They wanted to yank the Kindle versions but not all their library ebooks, so they're using this security garbage as an excuse. At least that's my guess.
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And what garbage it is. It is just as easy to remove the DRM from epub as it is from mobi/azw.
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The ebook market-two steps forward, one step back.
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The ebook market-two steps forward, one step back.
One step back, no steps forward.
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